fuck around and find out but for everything https://twitter.com/sonyasupposedly/status/1119008359024173057 …
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basically just restating Official doctrinehttps://twitter.com/literalbanana/status/791823186375483392?s=19 …
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being laser focused on being """"right""""""""" vs having Fun i know what i like
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1/ I've been feeling more and more like (some?) postrats learned the wrong lessons from rejecting LW rationality. Something like
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2/ its a rejection of curiosity towards epistemology. These sorts of postrats just take some ""pragmatic"" attitude (still without reading the philosophy literature on it and getting it wrong) in order to justify having fun without much concern for truth (it's just frames man)
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3/ I think it's something like if what you had, which made a lot of sense to you, completely and utterly failed, then how could anything else possibly be right?
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That wouldn't be very much fun I bet :) I have a long disquisition about this that's better served over drinks, let me try to give it in bullets
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1. I'm an empiricist by trade and a reasonably good one. I value this skillset highly enough to have spent my adult life honing it! 1a. Testing ideas empirically is important, 1b. but frequently not feasible, 1c. and often not an efficient way of getting better ideas
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2. Meaningness, Bongard problems, N E B U L O S I T Y 3. Stage 4 before Stage 5 4. Aesthetics as an example of a class of efficient heuristics for evaluating a certain set of problems 5. James P Carse mindset 5a. Entertaining Wrong ideas as countermeasure against Worse ideas
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bullets not necessarily in this order
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also, anecdote Have a semifamous musician acquaintance. He once went to a wedding, bunch of other musicians were playing in a circle. "Hey [guy] come join us!" He looks at them in horror "To play music? Here? Now? What the fuck, that's my JOB"
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