realized on the solo car drive out to the woods while ruminating on Albion's Seed that the (moldbug?) argument that the US is just the English Civil War by other means is basically sound and I just fuck man
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Replying to @eigenrobot
Current culture war dynamics map approximately to Blue=Roundheads and Red=Cavaliers but it's a very shallow correspondence imo
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Replying to @danlistensto
I think it's literally the descendants of each Puritan New England was basically Roundheads in exile, the Tidewater Cavaliers literally Cavalier families
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Replying to @eigenrobot
That is historically accurate but is deeply confounded by 400 years of American divergence and incorporation of other groups and subcultures
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It's also impossible to discount the way American corporatism (our country's actual dominant ideology) has simply created a simulacrum of conflict through it's marketing engine. Division and conflict are good for business.
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More seriously: Look at the fault lines in the civil war Consider how they persisted through the 60s and spawned the present culture war Really does read to me as the leitmotif of American internal grand conflict
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Replying to @eigenrobot
This does not even slightly explain Ohio, or more topically Illinois south of Chicago
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Replying to @danlistensto
Tell me more about those? Ohio was part of Greater Yankeedom mixed with some northern Borderers, right? Know less about Illinois settlers' culture ways
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Replying to @eigenrobot
The upper Midwest was the nominal destination of "go west, young man" in the early reconstruction period. It was settled by migrants and also I'm migrants with no real attachments to Albion.
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I pointed out 2 regions that are presently very Red but had histories of producing very ", progressive" Republican political leaders. There were many inversions during the 20th century such that our present alignment no longer maps cleanly to the historical antecedents.
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I think the geographies are shifting somewhat, as well as the party labels, but the cultural ways seem mostly intact Collapse of local culture maybe fanning the flames by pushing more people toward identifying with aggregated national melting pots w/strong Puritan/Cav affinity?
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