what's especially dispiriting I guess is that she's explicitly justifying people cutting ties with their friends and family right there in the tweet not straight up calling for it, but that's the implication that seems to be spelled out through the thread, if you buy her ideas
sex work case: when people asked me about what I was doing with that, and I gave my spiel, the modal result was horror and a rapid update to "gosh maybe this shouldn't be enforced by crazy men with guns" idk people seem to update to decency quickly when warmly/personally engaged
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Maybe you happen to have ability and opportunity to pre-filter the real shit cases out, so this whole "blow the bolts, cut it all lose and throw into space" shit seems conspicuously extreme
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that does seem pretty plausible :/ good implications for me, maybe bad for people generally compared to my prior
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I think two things might be conflated in this thread: ppl who genuinley disagree on policy, and people who are hateful or cultic or otherwise toxic. It doesn't make so much sense to split from the first group, it makes a lot of sense to split from the latter.
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Why should I be bothered less just because someone wants to indirect their intended harm through the state?
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well because they could simply be mistaken, in which case good evidence of that will make them change their mind. A true hater never changes their mind in the face of evidence: they're stuck that way.
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I'm confused by the idea that differing values are really about differing empirical beliefs that this seems to depend on.
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Sometimes they are, sometimes they are not :) Tho I agree, that finding a "evidentiary niche" for one's values is more common than finding a value niche based on existing evidence.
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