none of this is novel, Certain People have been pleading the belligerents to lay down their arms with these words since the war broke out I dont know maybe OP is dumb but it more reads like shes not even trying just "heres todays rationale for why the outgroup is irredeemable"
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sex work case: when people asked me about what I was doing with that, and I gave my spiel, the modal result was horror and a rapid update to "gosh maybe this shouldn't be enforced by crazy men with guns" idk people seem to update to decency quickly when warmly/personally engaged
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Maybe you happen to have ability and opportunity to pre-filter the real shit cases out, so this whole "blow the bolts, cut it all lose and throw into space" shit seems conspicuously extreme
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that does seem pretty plausible :/ good implications for me, maybe bad for people generally compared to my prior
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I think two things might be conflated in this thread: ppl who genuinley disagree on policy, and people who are hateful or cultic or otherwise toxic. It doesn't make so much sense to split from the first group, it makes a lot of sense to split from the latter.
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Why should I be bothered less just because someone wants to indirect their intended harm through the state?
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well because they could simply be mistaken, in which case good evidence of that will make them change their mind. A true hater never changes their mind in the face of evidence: they're stuck that way.
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I'm confused by the idea that differing values are really about differing empirical beliefs that this seems to depend on.
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Sometimes they are, sometimes they are not :) Tho I agree, that finding a "evidentiary niche" for one's values is more common than finding a value niche based on existing evidence.
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