I don't have strong opinions about the policies in question generally however people can reasonably disagree in good faith about the likelihood of different outcomes of a policy or its absence or alternatives this seems uncontroversial
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even agreeing on probabilities they can disagree about the value of different outcomes without being monsters people have different social aesthetics perhaps you disagree, in which case good luck in your effort to subjugate everyone who doesnt share your precise taste in mores
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none of this is novel, Certain People have been pleading the belligerents to lay down their arms with these words since the war broke out I dont know maybe OP is dumb but it more reads like shes not even trying just "heres todays rationale for why the outgroup is irredeemable"
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what's especially dispiriting I guess is that she's explicitly justifying people cutting ties with their friends and family right there in the tweet not straight up calling for it, but that's the implication that seems to be spelled out through the thread, if you buy her ideas
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this hits me personally, for sure I've lost very close people who won't talk to me because I want to sit out the culture wars. It's their life now and I don't understand it, and I think I fear what it might represent or portend
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even in modern times the US (the world) has been through some Shit and none of that seemed to be accompanied by a--I don't know, systematic dissolution of small-scale society, of families and friendships our natural and Meaningful choiceless bonds
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Replying to @eigenrobot
For the people who weren't driven out for being gay, for the people who weren't having their life torn apart by La Migra, for the people who had enough wealth to not get constantly arrested... We summoned this demon a century ago, it's just finally arrived at YOUR home.
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I'd be happy to discuss personal aspects of this with you by DM, Dolores and please also keep in mind I probably agree with you at the object level if that matters, I am slightly concerned that you might be pattern matching me to the outgroup my plea in this thread . . .
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. . . as I think I replied to you elsewhere, is just for people to Tolerate the wrong and even publicly bad in one's private life hoping that they Become Good but recognizing that there is a value in loved ones beyond their _bien pensance_
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Replying to @eigenrobot @AmbrosialArts
"Loved ones." I get the strong impression of a personal experience or fear, which is heavily weighting the reading here.
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I guess I'm mostly recoiling in horror at the thought of what it would be like to say for any reason to my mother and father: I am sorry, you are Wrong and so I am no longer your son, good day
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Replying to @eigenrobot @lyrra_sark
These are thoughts people who still have mother and fathers are privileged to have, cherish that horror, I suppose.
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