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    1. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 29

      kind of wonder if ive been in a biological kegan 4.5 for a while even knowing the fatuousness of the stance damned wetware maybe a better framing is lacking a good lifestyle aesthetic after rejecting the last one

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    2. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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      ?

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    3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 29
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      Post 4 general stance: "there are lots of ways to live and they may be selected at will" 4.5: . . . so none of them have meaning 5.0: . . . so meaning is where you choose to assign it intellectually embrace 5.0 but practically or anhedonically seem to be stuck at 4.5

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    4. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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      I don't know, I'm not sure you internalized that there was all that much meaning in a single system to begin with.

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    5. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 29
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      Hmm I think maybe I used to get by on low-key secret narcissism and maybe I don't get much value from that anymore? And I used to be into Learning, I was super into knowing everything Not sure what happened there

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    6. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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      Neither of those are Systems Of Meaning really... Reread things that aren't just Chapman's breakdown of it.https://medium.com/@NataliMorad/how-to-be-an-adult-kegans-theory-of-adult-development-d63f4311b553 …

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      masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 29
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      Hm I think they are "Where does one find motivation" "What is the implicit animating narrative" Possibly this is functional meaning vs abstract?

      8:20 PM - 29 Aug 2018
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        2. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          I'm just saying, if a single blog post by one Buddhist, no matter how insightful, can unearth existential angst, I'm willing to ask if you do in fact have a Stage 4 card. There's a qualitatively difference between "stuck behind the Veil of Paroketh" and "lost in the Abyss."

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        3. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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          qualitative, damn.

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        4. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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          I think Chapman downplays the degree to which Stage 5 would represent someone who is transcendent of ordinary systems of meaning. Most people don't even have "has authored their own meaning, even if it's mostly a hack ripoff, and unmoored themselves from the meanings of society."

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        5. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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          And I think that this more commonly Strong Meaning Able To Distort The World Around It is what many people WOULD parse as Transcendent, superficially, because they have transcended the concerns of the people around them (which is the absolutely most dominant paradigm of thought).

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        6. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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          Being really into learning shit is having a hobby. Most people are not so into learning shit they would even Consider hiding books from Li Si if Li Si came around with a squadron of Qin soldiers to burn all the books and whip people to death if they resist.

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        7. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
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          That might seem overly dramatic but I often find that a motivation that isn't strong enough to maybe kill you if you grip it too tightly is often not strong enough to start reshaping you, and that's what self-authorship really means. Warping yourself.

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        8. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Aug 29
          Replying to @AmbrosialArts @eigenrobot

          So I think it's totally possible to fail the transition to Stage 4, too. In any case, if you aren't able to ~adopt multiple systems of meaning fluidly~ maybe you should just focus on getting into One. Regardless of my other comments, no one proved starting over isn't an option.

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