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    1.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11

       👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃 Retweeted taking a break from online - vote nov 6!

      It /is/ kinda odd, isn't it? Like even if we're just going from an "ideal" standpoint rather than "Utopia" it's still bizarrely weird how one side has basically no ambition.https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1016764572097699840 …

       👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃 added,

      taking a break from online - vote nov 6!Verified account @jules_su
      Left-Wing Utopia: Everybody on earth is safe, healthy, happy, educated, and free to pursue their ambitions. Right-Wing Utopia: White Americans work sixty hours a week in a backbreaking job they hate with no healthcare and one week of vacation, and everyone else is dead.
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    2. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jul 11
      Replying to @gypsy_panther

      Sounds like a strawman.

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    3.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
      Replying to @simpolism

      He obviously exaggerated a bit, but it's not entirely wrong, is it? None of the right-wingers I've discussed policy with ever seem to have ambitions higher than "I want to keep my job and my general social role." Maybe I just naturally select depressing people to talk with but WK

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    4. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jul 11
      Replying to @gypsy_panther

      It seems like a caricature of Far Right beliefs (which don't even really reflect most right-wing individuals), contrasted with an overly general and much more charitable expression of Left-wing beliefs.

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    5.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
      Replying to @simpolism

      The left one can be shown by leftist policy, though. See: social welfare programs, encouragement of things that reduce inequality, mitigation of things considered dangerous, push for universal healthcare+free university..while on the right, they tend to go to the opposite of that

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    6.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11

      I don't even necessarily support everything on the left, for the record. I just...can't fathom why the right doesn't set an aim somewhere. Rand Paul's really the only conservative in govt. (and even he's pretty much just a leftist with a hate for government, Lbh) who does afaict.

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    7. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jul 11
      Replying to @gypsy_panther

      simpolism Retweeted

      I think this one gets closer. The aim is "less is more". The priority is to avoid using government to accomplish things that can instead be done at a smaller scale. Hence why looking at policy to determine views results in weird conclusions. https://twitter.com/ryansroberts/status/1017064697688977410?s=19 …

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    8.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
      Replying to @simpolism

      They don't particularly do things at a smaller scale though, do they? When you think "Charitable contributors," you don't think "Koch brothers" or "Donald Trump" or etc. (I actually can't think of a mainstream right-wing charity contributor besides Thiel.) You think of Gates+co.

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      masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 11
      Replying to @gypsy_panther @simpolism

      Most of it is small scale philanthropy, or religious I think

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        2.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
          Replying to @eigenrobot @simpolism

          It really makes you wonder, doesn't it? Like, "Everything will be cured by philanthropy!" sounds awesome but...if it's just poor people helping worse-off poor people, and not the people making policy....hm.

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        3.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
          Replying to @gypsy_panther @eigenrobot @simpolism

          And generally those are food banks and the like, not say, medical help.

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        4. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jul 11
          Replying to @gypsy_panther @eigenrobot

          I'd say the impetus behind right-wing philanthropy (minus the Neo-Cons) is along the lines of "we can help the needy in our community through charity" with an implicit "if they're not in my community, I don't want to be involved in their welfare at all."

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        5.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
          Replying to @simpolism @eigenrobot

          What exactly /is there/ in terms of the right helping people with medical costs, or housing costs or educational cost? Genuinely curious here - even if it's just in the context of a local community. I can pretty much only think of food banks.

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        6.  👻 anyone who's done anything for areo magazine  🎃‏ @gypsy_panther Jul 11
          Replying to @gypsy_panther @simpolism @eigenrobot

          (Speaking as someone who grew up in an extremely right-wing area that only had food banks, I have no frame of reference for actual local philanthropy, probably.)

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        7. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jul 11
          Replying to @gypsy_panther @eigenrobot

          A widespread belief among the right, as far as I can tell, is that much healthcare is unnecessary to health and formal education unnecessary to success. But I expect if someone absolutely needed a procedure done, then the community would rally to help cover the costs.

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        8. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 11
          Replying to @simpolism

          lol note these are also cornerstone beliefs of INGROUP

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        9. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jul 11
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          turns out INGROUP leans conservative

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