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    masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 15

    masquerobot Retweeted David Axelrod

    does no one remember why we have entrance exams in the first place crazy pillshttps://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1007373396299141122 …

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    David AxelrodVerified account @davidaxelrod
    I’m proud of @UChicago for taking important steps to expand access to the extraordinary college education it offers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/a-shake-up-in-elite-admissions-u-chicago-drops-satact-testing-requirement/2018/06/13/442a5e14-6efd-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html …
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      2. [conspicuously abstract kojima-style cryptonym]‏ @swimming_blerd Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        the SAT is extraordinarily easy to game

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 15
        Replying to @swimming_blerd

        sure if youre the sort of person who could crush the sat anyway

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. [conspicuously abstract kojima-style cryptonym]‏ @swimming_blerd Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        the time (and resources) high school students spend gaming the SAT take away from other, more meaningful pursuits high school students end up less prepared for college in the end, college work suffers

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 15
        Replying to @swimming_blerd

        probably the question is: are SATs easier to game than other tests? I doubt it idk strivers are gonna game whatever you put in front of em classes included

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot @swimming_blerd

        like man the shit I saw premed students do

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      7. [conspicuously abstract kojima-style cryptonym]‏ @swimming_blerd Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        premeds get blown out the fuck out by ochem, and rightfully man the people who make it can only make it because they've been doing the requisite coursework for years; focusing on the SAT incentives the opposite--quick gain, versus longer, more difficult to develop skills

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      8. [conspicuously abstract kojima-style cryptonym]‏ @swimming_blerd Jun 15
        Replying to @swimming_blerd @eigenrobot

        incentivizing students to take harder classes, earlier, helps everyone in the end, improving the quality of ed they get further down the line generally the more of the "college" curriculum you can push back down (where it belongs), the better

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      9. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 15
        Replying to @swimming_blerd

        I pretty generally agree with this, and also I think the obvious solution if you go the follow the logic trail is "get rid of existing schools and replace them with nonmandatory skill-based certification"

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      2. acertrea‏ @acertrea Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        using SAT instead of A-level/baccalaureate-style exams (think AP) is dumb, but even dumber is the selecting people based on essays and extracurricular activities (i.e. brand-building)

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      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 15
        Replying to @acertrea

        I've got mixed feelings about that if you really do want to select on ability without respect to access to good programs, SAT's probably a good way to go on the other hand maybe it doesn't select for holistic success in college (whatever that means) as well as AP

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Andre‏ @androgynandre Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot @acertrea

        For most of HS I had between a 1.something and 2.something GPA, and ended up where some peers who were near 4 go... I think because of my SAT and cover letter with math/programming stuff.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Andre‏ @androgynandre Jun 15
        Replying to @androgynandre @eigenrobot @acertrea

        A popular local college that visited my HS refused to meet with me, they were literally in the room waiting for students and wouldn't meet me.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        wow, @UChicago eliminating the one way for smart kids from fucked up backgrounds to have a chance in favor of full reliance on the kind of intergenerational family-as-institution support that generates impressive college entry CVs, so brave

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      3. Spyromancer‏ @AdamWierciszews Jun 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot @UChicago

        who needs postsecondary when it's all free online anyway weed out the dollars > sense crowd much easier this way

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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