I am not a vegetarian and I'm not sure they're ethically correct but I have a lot of contempt for people who go out of their way to express contempt for vegetarians and more generally for the class of people who respond to shame at virtue in others with abuse
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I don't agree with this because I don't weight animal suffering and human suffering the same.
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I don't either but I don't weight it zero and what's done in labs is (i) utterly ghastly, Mengele-level shit, and (ii) frequently gratuitous and also (iii) a complete waste of time and money I can talk about what I did if you have a strong stomach
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ok sure! I'm drinking now, so no problem going to untag everyone else after this, feel free to read on if you like folks
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ok so my first lab was a corvid lab, strictly behavioral we trained em to hop on perches following lights, and to make choices about when to have food delivered this was cool and good, I had no problem with this
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the next animal lab I worked in was birdsong neuroscience and this is what I had a problem with there were two main classes of protocols: in vivo neural monitoring, and cytology the cytology was . . . okay. ish. birds had to be killed to collect their brains . . .
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so that we could slice them finely, for staining. The particular method of sacrifice, which was the working euphemism for killing, was a really gruesome approach called perfusion, where the chest was sliced across laterally at the aorta so the heart could exsanguinate the animal
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