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    1. i seem to you to seek a new disaster every day‏ @palecur 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Danno28_ @sonyaellenmann @eigenrobot

      this assessment is correct btw

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @palecur @Danno28_ @sonyaellenmann

      nooooooooooooo stay AWAY from the object level bad bad bad bad bad palecur

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    3. i seem to you to seek a new disaster every day‏ @palecur 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @eigenrobot @Danno28_ @sonyaellenmann

      it's the only real level though

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    4. Danno the manno‏ @Danno28_ 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      Is the assessment correct because feminism is not the same as the belief that women aren’t all NPCs? Or is it correct because it’s logically impossible for Greer to believe women aren’t all NPCs, given her views on rape sentencing/trans rights?

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    5. i seem to you to seek a new disaster every day‏ @palecur 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Danno28_ @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      the second one, as mentioned in a separate post.

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    6. Danno the manno‏ @Danno28_ 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      They really seem to be separate claims though. One is about the nature of what it is to be a person. Whereas the others are I) a view on appropriate punishments for crimes and 2) a view on the appropriate rights for trans people. What am I missing?

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    7. i seem to you to seek a new disaster every day‏ @palecur 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Danno28_ @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      that a claim about one's nature can be falsified by one's positions.

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    8. Danno the manno‏ @Danno28_ 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      Why is expressing a view about criminal punishments/sentences, inconsistent with the claim “All homo sapiens - including all women - are people?” Are there any other crimes where expressing a view about the appropriate punishments is inconsistent with that claim?

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    9. i seem to you to seek a new disaster every day‏ @palecur 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Danno28_ @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      "All homo sapiens are people", if it means anything, means "All people deserve some set of rights". It follows that "trans people don't deserve a subset of those rights" implies "trans people aren't people."

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    10. Danno the manno‏ @Danno28_ 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

      As it happens, object level, i’m sympathetic to trans rights (INGROUP SIGNALLING!). But i am unpersuaded that believing all Homo sapiens are people is tautologically the same as saying trans people can self id for all legal purposes. (Although as noted I do support that anyway).

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Danno28_ @palecur @sonyaellenmann

      Since we're down here in the dirt, a taxonomic question Probably few before idk 2005 had Progressive opinions about trans people @palecur would you say eg the Suffragettes were feminist or naw, True Feminism is only possible now Maybe there is a truer Undiscoved feminism?

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        2. i seem to you to seek a new disaster every day‏ @palecur 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @eigenrobot @Danno28_ @sonyaellenmann

          It's always defining a goal and asymptotically improving upon it, just like 'Liberty' meant 'for white landowning dudes' and has been refined over time. Were suffragettes feminist by today's standards? Is a hoplon a soldier today?

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        3. Danno the manno‏ @Danno28_ 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot @sonyaellenmann

          I think that’s a fine and worthy answer if the claim was “a feminist is someone who believes in trans rights today, someone who favoured votes for women in 1920 etc”. But this is not at all the same as the claim - “a feminist is someone who believes women are people.”

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