To me, the biggest issue here is that it's terrible reliability may be giving Apple a black eye, but it's not like it's good even when it works. At best, people seem to think it's just okay. At worst, they HATE it. This as a replacement for the most beloved laptop keyboard ever?
The butterfly keyboard is Apple's Windows Vista, a reputation-destroying slow-motion train wreck. Discuss.https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-changes-macbook-butterfly-keyboard-after-user-complaints-11558458029?mod=djemptech_t …
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I just assumed that the typo was caused by the butterfly keyboard.
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Nowhere near as bad as vista
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I remember howblike on the Opie And Anthony or Howard Stern shows Vista use to be a butt if jones. Most regulars have no idea the new keyboard is a steaming pile of shit
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Of course it's not the same phenomenon. Vista was a $99 mass product, the MacBook Pro is $1500-2500. But among Apple's core market of influencers, it has been a reputation-destroyer.
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If *I* wrote for a living—and a huge fraction of journos seem to use MB(P)s—I would be VERY concerned with disruption to my work. Ironically, the *potential* for it might even be worse—more widespread a fear—than having it go bad. I think that's why it so big, even if a tiny %.
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Kinda maybe? The MacBook keyboard woes hit an unlucky few. (My wife has a 2016 Pro, no problem.) But Windows Vista made ALL users weep. The pain landscape was broader.
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I'm just talking about the reputational fallout.
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Still don't think it's on the same scale. Windows was Microsoft's flagship at the time; MacBooks are second fiddle to iPhones these days. And the number of people weeping over Vista was far greater than those having unreliable MacBook keyboards.
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Even reputationally.
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You could technically still type on a computer running Vista.
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I’ve stopped using MacBook computers entirely because the combination of the butterfly keyboard with the over-sensitive trackpad reduced my typing productivity by more than a third. I type a lot. Now I use Logitech keyboards with iMac Pros and an iPad in between...
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4 generations later, Apple appears to have nearly solved the keyboard fiasco it created while trying to solve a problem that didn’t exist
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Adds this to a reference pile as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVq1wgIN62E …
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Even reliability issues aside, they are just simply horrifically bad to type on.
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Not at the scale of Windows Vista but still very damaging nonetheless. I think they are applying band-aid while the real redesign is still being worked out for 2020.
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It’s a PR issue for sure but Vista was far, far worse and its problems were immediate and affected everyone. Getting slammed by a vocal minority is bad but that same vocal minority isn’t jumping ship (any more than the “I’m ditching iPhone” attention whores).
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100%. Inexcusable that they’re on revision 4. Customers realized what the issue was within the first year (chassis is too thin leading to poor keyboard + thermals), but Apple either hasn’t learned or has only realized in the last year. A stain on the company either way
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