Evan Urquhart

I don't think most women actually are that way, or ever were. So, yes, I think people naturally resist coercive socialization.

People are harmed by limiting perceptions/expectations of others, not primarily by socialization making them into robots w/o agency.

As well as by direct, intentional, conscious sexism (or racism) of course.

Socialization is interesting, and makes a difference on the margins. But you can't fundamentally change who a person is.

I disagree w/ the underlyin assumption here, & I think it runs thru much of ur position. I'll try 2 articulate it...

Ur Premise: Preponderance of sum1's ID cums from innate personality traits & social characteristics, independent of environmental influence.

U also seem 2 b sayin that "Gender" is 1 of these immutable, fundamental characteristics which define ppl, right?

As I was saying earlier, that's possible, but also possible it's a characteristic that's stronger in some ppl than others.