Evan Urquhart

I did a fun (for me) science thread, but I promised I'd do a thread about trans men, virilismia, and the stigma against ugly women, so let's go! To start out: Are you a trans man whose spent some part of your life being perceived as an ugly woman? What do you make of that?

It's really weird for me. Because I was so obviously good looking. I look at pictures now and I just was. I got called manly looking even though I was extremely feminine. I was called ugly, even by people who were attracted to me, because liking me was embarrassing.

But, embarrassing in a way that it wouldn't be to like any other woman. Like, I would date the nerdiest guys and they would still be like ashamed to date me and not want anyone at school to know. Or people messaged my husband shaming him for being with me

It's been really weird the way people have acted to me. Often like a switch flipping when I talk to them This is a little off topic. But I had a woman just start trying to say I needed to be cast out because I was a witch, just based on how I talked. People were just weird to me

I relate to this- I was never very attractive, but I was objectively average to high average when I was thin, and I got so little male attention I thought cis women were making up stories about how aggressive straight men were.

There was something about the way I carried myself (or something?), even at my thinnest and most femme, that gave straight men a "stay away" signal.