3) Organization Does criticism appear to be organized and targeted? Are the organizers recruiting others to pile on? Are you being swarmed and brigaded? Are people hunting through your work and scouring social media to find ammunition to use against you?
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In critical culture, organizing pressure campaigns against ideological targets is usually considered out of bounds. By contrast, it’s common to see cancelers organize hundreds of petition-signers or thousands of social media users to dig up and prosecute an indictment.
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4) Secondary Boycotts Is there an explicit or implicit threat that people who support you will also get punished? Are people putting pressure on employers and colleagues to fire you or stop associating with you? Do people who defend you have to fear adverse consequences?
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5) Moral Grandstanding Are the attacks on you ad hominem, repetitive, ritualistic, posturing, accusatory, outraged? Are people flattening distinctions, demonizing you, slinging inflammatory labels and engaging in moral one-upmanship? Are people ignoring what you actually say?
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Replying to @Yascha_Mounk
How can a self interested, defensive individual reliably tell if others are engaging in "moral grandstanding" vs hurt and upset bc they've engaged in racism, sexism, sexual harassment, or transphobia?
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Replying to @e_urq @Yascha_Mounk
Generally, the difference is they can and will answer questions with specific answers instead of chanting tautologies at you.
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Replying to @Grown_UpWoman @Yascha_Mounk
Who, exactly? We all live in this online environment where people will come out of the woodwork to chant a tautology and disappear. If you discount every argument that has even a single tautology-chanter associated with it, you'll end up discount every argument.
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Replying to @e_urq @Yascha_Mounk
Good point, but the people you refer to don't want a good faith debate. I love a debate. If I could be paid to do nothing but debate all day, I'd love it. And by "debate" I mean "consider both sides of the argument and work towards a solution." I don't argue for the sake of it.
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Replying to @Grown_UpWoman
Hey, same. For me the key has been to find the smartest person on the other side of the argument, and ignore anyone who isn't adding anything. Whereas I think Mounk and Rauch are in a mode of ignoring the other side if some people on it aren't meeting their standards.
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Replying to @e_urq
Perhaps. I give them the benefit of the doubt, mostly because they haven't told me off for discussing The Subject That Must Not Be Named. Mind you, I daresay it's because I'm not being horrible to anyone.
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You're talking about transgender rights? A topic I have discussed fruitfully countless times, and often even convinced people on the other side to change some of their thinking around, but which apparently is impossible to have a civil conversation about.
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Replying to @e_urq
Eh, I like being civil. What I don't like is being told that safeguarding is transphobic and that women shouldn't have personal boundaries. Them's fightin' words.
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