Did anyone even THINK to consult us about that?!! No,but that’s fine because we aren’t bowing down. We actually do have voices and, oh my, they can be very loud. We will continues to protect our sex based rights over the ‘feels’ of men.
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Look, I don't know Fox Fischer but I've never heard of trans men who prefers using the women's room after they stop looking like women.
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A very prominent trans activist in the U.K. The toilets thing is a cop out. Trans men will probably use men’s toilets. When it comes to changing rooms, showers and of course, prisons, it’s a different story.
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You really can't imagine someone just... not being afraid all the time. (I use men's changing rooms and showers too- not prison, of course, but if I was arrested that's where I'd go.)
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The only transmen I know in my local area are the type who “identify as gay men” and I only know of them be star they joined a local social group for gay men. They’d stick out like a sore thumb in men’s changing rooms even before they took their clothes off.
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Quite frankly. They wouldn’t be welcome or wanted in the men’s changing rooms or showers except by those that would want to perve on them. Third spaces. The only solution I can see working.
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And to use your own language “you really can’t imagine just...” people wanting single sex spaces for their privacy and dignity even if they are not concerned for their safety? Women are entitled to this and so are men.
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And to be honest Evan you can postire as much as you like about what you’d do. I’m in the U.K. and am taking about what prominent trans activists in her U.K. are saying and advocating for. If they’d just switch to campaigning for third spaces it would be fine.
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What do you need third spaces for? The women's room isn't good enough, you want some extra womanly room?
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? Single occupancy third spaces for those who are not comfortable in the spaces of their own sex OR who have taken steps to chsnge their body to simulate secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex.
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Don't really see the need to be honest. If you want a third space, make it for yourself.
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The majority of people in the U.K. do not want me bodied people with penises in women’s spaces. Your selfishness and lack of empathy for others is typical in TRAs.
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