The paper on ROGD asked parents in these pre-existing online anti-trans forums that created the term to tell their stories. The researcher, to my knowledge, had and has no other experience with trans or gender nonconforming youth.
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Replying to @e_urq @jessesingal
There are a few statements you are saying that may or may not be factual, and a reader here like myself would have to read a lot to see if they are true. 1. ROGD is a concept originating from online discussions. 2. The term itself originated from these forums. (1/2)
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3. These forums are anti-trans people, or bigots. 4. People use these forums to plan public talking points. I'm a bit skeptical, as Bradley, Zucker, Blanchard, etc. all seem to take it seriously.
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Replying to @MrHartwell207 @jessesingal
"Bigots" is your word, not mine. The rest is knowledge I have as a result of my professional reporting on this topic, and I am presenting it to you in a neutral and unbiased way.
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Replying to @e_urq @jessesingal
Certain forums that were concerned with general anti-trans activism exist. The idea of ROGD developed in these forums, these forums were not initially created to respond to ROGD but to discuss trans issues from an anti-trans perspeective.
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Replying to @e_urq
fwiw I disagree with the idea that these forums were all transphobic. i get some emails from "concerned parents" and I'd say their views run the gamut. in some cases they're really just leery about hormones, which are in fact a big medical decision, and not motivated by bigotry
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Replying to @jessesingal
I agree that well meaning concerned parents have gotten mixed in, but you'd agree that "gender critical" forums were not originally for parents or about ROGD, it was a later focus? Opposing trans rights on behalf of women's safety was the original motivation, yes?
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Replying to @e_urq
I actually think it really depends. 4thwave is mostly about kids, because the founder had a kid who temporarily identified as trans. I think sometimes people lump together different groups with different agendas. "Concerned moms" and GC folks sometimes overlap but not always.
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Replying to @jessesingal @e_urq
Though I hear more from CM and have written stuff more in that wheelhouse, so I don't necessarily have a 100% accurate birdseye view
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Replying to @jessesingal
What I observed was that GC groups were throwing all sorts of things out there for years, largely unnoticed, and one thing that finally seemed to resonate was concern about social contagion in kids. The label ROGD came next, still before any researchers were involved.
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I'm all for more research, and will follow the evidence wherever it leads. If social contagion theory is true it won't matter where it originated, or why. But, for now, while we still lack evidence, it seems important to recognize where the anecdotes and insinuations originated.
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Replying to @e_urq
I just think no parent is qualified to diagnose their kid one way or another and we need way more competent gender clinicians. I saw a Facebook thread where a mom did a full social transition a week after their 3-year-old came out. 6 months is the minimum for diagnosable GD
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Replying to @jessesingal @e_urq
I've never gotten a clear answer as to why more compassionate gender clinicians who are well-inforemed about developmental psychology wouldn't satisfy everyone's concerns, as long as they don't delay stuff too much
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