I never watched G4 but I just opened some clips to see what the fuss is about but I've already heard two real sexist jokes and it's giving off real Big Gamer Bro Energy so, uh, meh I guess?
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Looking through clips today it was extremely striking both how many stupid sexist jokes got thrown around but *also* how many visible women (including a prominent women of color!) there were.
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YUP. that era of gaming (early 2000s) is full of misogynist crap and G4 was also misogynist but at least women were present both physically and mentally?
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^^ that. Like it was the only time I actually saw women doing the thing and doing it unapologetically. I was also in the forums which were TRASH - but G4 was pretty much all I watched in those years.
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It really is - which is why I said it needs to do better. Which I think is where the convo should be going, especially since the shows were extremely white - and given recent hosting gigs from other communities have a chance of being so as well.
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I think I agree with you in spirit here, truly. I never watched G4. It was just super upsetting to see a lot of folks uncritically pumped for a thing where the first thing I saw when looking it up is a crack about how the only good thing about a certain game was the naked women.
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