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    David Roberts‏Verified account @drvox 15h15 hours ago

    I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this, but: even if a sane president is elected in 2020, how can other countries ever trust us again? The Paris deal, the Iran deal ... how can anyone trust us to rebuild them when we might elect a madman/moron at any time?

    11:22 AM - 8 May 2018
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      2. Anna Maltese  🏹‏ @MalteseAnna 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @drvox

        This is what keeps me up at night.

        2 replies 0 retweets 39 likes
      3. Don‏ @Secretoriginz 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @MalteseAnna @drvox

        Foreigners have better long term memories than we do. They know Trump is a blip. A horrible awful toxic corrosive blip, but a blip nonetheless.

        10 replies 2 retweets 33 likes
      4. Anna Maltese  🏹‏ @MalteseAnna 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @Secretoriginz @drvox

        My birthday present to myself is allowing myself to have one small sigh of tentative relief upon reading this. Thank you.

        5 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
      5. Don‏ @Secretoriginz 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @MalteseAnna @drvox

        Wait...is today your birthday?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Anna Maltese  🏹‏ @MalteseAnna 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @Secretoriginz @drvox

        Yep, today's the day. As an aside, May 8th is also V-E Day, the official day marking the Nazis surrender. It's a conceit on my part, but I like to imagine that Churchill thought to himself, "This will make a fine birthday for someone far in the future." 😉

        3 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
      7. Don‏ @Secretoriginz 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @MalteseAnna @drvox

        I share my birthday with Lincoln. Always felt a kinship with him. Not just because of the bday but it didn't hurt. So...gonna go out drinking because you finally can, all legal like & everything?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Anna Maltese  🏹‏ @MalteseAnna 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @Secretoriginz @drvox

        That's awesome - you share a birthday with Lincoln?!

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Don‏ @Secretoriginz 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @MalteseAnna @drvox

        Well except for the year, yeah. I mean unless some kinda reincarnation plot twist is still yet to be revealed.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. ANDREW‏ @AcunaAndrew 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @drvox @Galileo908

        I've given this a lot of thought, and one thought sticks out: perhaps the possibility that this'll be viewed as such a spectacularly bizarre blip on the radar that it wont' doo "too much" long term damage. I mean, we all know that every decision has been out of sheer pettiness.

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      3. Janne M. Korhonen‏ @jmkorhonen 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @AcunaAndrew @drvox @Galileo908

        Sorry, no. From now on, the reality is that any European natsec planner who assumes the US policy and commitments will remain consistent over a decade will be criminally negligent of her/his duty.

        2 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
      4. Steve Jortles‏ @Galileo908 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @jmkorhonen @AcunaAndrew @drvox

        Yep.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. ANDREW‏ @AcunaAndrew 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @Galileo908 @jmkorhonen @drvox

        *sigh*

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Steve Jortles‏ @Galileo908 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @AcunaAndrew @jmkorhonen @drvox

        That was the grim reality when Trump got elected. W was bad enough, and now this guy is just plain crazy.

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. TraderMoe‏ @Trader_Moe 13h13 hours ago
        Replying to @drvox

        Finally, Saudi Arabia and Israel trust us again. Finally, Poland and Hungary can trust us again. Finally, Asia can trust us again. And finally, Europe knows we're still America.

        4 replies 49 retweets 115 likes
      3. TraderMoe‏ @Trader_Moe 13h13 hours ago
        Replying to @Trader_Moe @drvox

        Why would any country in the world trust the Iran deal when Obama never got it ratified by the Senate. Did other countries suffer from the misunderstanding that Obama was a dictator?

        0 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
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      2. Myke‏ @Sinixstar 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @drvox

        This is why i've been telling people for a long time - even if Trump was somehow removed tomorrow, we're going to be dealing with the consequences and fallout for many years to come.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      3. Myke‏ @Sinixstar 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @Sinixstar @drvox

        The thing that most viewed as a safety net in the US - that we have a system that checks the power of a bad leader, and that leaders are held accountable by the people - has been destroyed. There will be no faith in our system for a long time to come.

        0 replies 3 retweets 19 likes
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      2. Seph Rodney, PhD‏ @Sephspeaks 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @drvox

        That's precisely why I think the damage he's doing is essentially permanent. Various European magazines were not mistaken when right after the election, they made images of him blowing up the world.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Janne M. Korhonen‏ @jmkorhonen 14h14 hours ago
        Replying to @Sephspeaks @drvox

        This is precisely the reason why those pictures were made. Us Europeans are less concerned about Trump than what it signifies: that the US commitments cannot be guaranteed for more than 4 years to the future. This is what keeps our natsec planners awake at night.

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