Yeah I have a horrible feeling I've become some weird metarat acolyte, which is bad because those people are annoying and also I have some pride. I'm still in the immersion phase, not the critique phase, though, so it seems unavoidable... that reading list isn't exactly short
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Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and
(I guess implicit in that is that it has to be immerse first critique later... in practice that's how it always works for me)
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Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and
Interesting. I think I reverse these - I tend to want to integrate new knowledge into existing frameworks so I'm naturally more critical of it as it clashes and then slowly integrate it more fully. TBH this is a lot of why I'm not (yet?) a metarat - haven't integrated it well
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Replying to @DRMacIver @GeniesLoki and
Hm. Actually if I'm very unconvinced/suspicious of something I guess I do critique first. But in general I find less effective, because I have to artificially jam the thing into an existing framework instead of just seeing what it can do.
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Replying to @drossbucket @DRMacIver and
Ofc if it's something unfamiliar *enough* I have to do the jamming thing. Like every time I try and read Derrida I spend the whole time trying to reinterpret him as something I actually understand
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Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and
I don't think it's necessarily jamming so much as... analogising, looking at things from different angles, trying things from different perspectives, and using conflicts to highlight points of confusion, etc. I don't expect things to fit so much as illuminate each other.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @GeniesLoki and
OK that sounds better. I still like to hold off doing too much of those things for a while, but they are very useful
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Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and
I think mostly I'm always going to be looking for synthesis in the end anyway, so it helps me to get in doing that early.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @GeniesLoki and
Yeah, I'm looking for synthesis in the end too. I just find I have to be quite gentle with the new thing to let enough of it get in. (this is all kind of vague and general. I probably need to think through specific cases. but brain is fried atm from stupid work bug.)
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Replying to @drossbucket
It's possible I'm just more impatient than you are. But also it's possible you engage with harder material and/or learn it more thoroughly than I do TBH. Often my understanding of a subject ends up a little alien to that of people who actually work in it.
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maaaybe engage with harder material, yes, almost certainly don't learn it more thoroughly. Normally end up with a pretty sloppy understanding. I'm pretty sure I read very differently to you in general - much less, much slower, but prob more intense focus on what I do read.
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