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    1. Lulie‏ @reasonisfun May 12
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      Do you have any ideas why cultishness hasn’t popped up around you, David? I wonder if meta-rat’ism having no fixed frame helps. CR does have this IMO, but everyone tends to interpret it as having a practical ideology that is True and Follows from the Laws of Epistemology.

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    2. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki May 12
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      It's not totally clear to me that he doesn't have a cult, TBH. It's definitely a much smaller one than the number of metarats would suggest though, I think largely because metarat is only appealing after you've already got indigestion from eating a few other ideologies first.

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    3. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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      Replying to @GeniesLoki @reasonisfun @Meaningness

      Yeah I have a horrible feeling I've become some weird metarat acolyte, which is bad because those people are annoying and also I have some pride. I'm still in the immersion phase, not the critique phase, though, so it seems unavoidable... that reading list isn't exactly short

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    4. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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      Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and

      (I guess implicit in that is that it has to be immerse first critique later... in practice that's how it always works for me)

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    5. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver May 12
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      Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and

      Interesting. I think I reverse these - I tend to want to integrate new knowledge into existing frameworks so I'm naturally more critical of it as it clashes and then slowly integrate it more fully. TBH this is a lot of why I'm not (yet?) a metarat - haven't integrated it well

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    6. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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      Replying to @DRMacIver @GeniesLoki and

      Hm. Actually if I'm very unconvinced/suspicious of something I guess I do critique first. But in general I find less effective, because I have to artificially jam the thing into an existing framework instead of just seeing what it can do.

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    7. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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      Replying to @drossbucket @DRMacIver and

      Ofc if it's something unfamiliar *enough* I have to do the jamming thing. Like every time I try and read Derrida I spend the whole time trying to reinterpret him as something I actually understand

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    8. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver May 12
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      Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and

      I don't think it's necessarily jamming so much as... analogising, looking at things from different angles, trying things from different perspectives, and using conflicts to highlight points of confusion, etc. I don't expect things to fit so much as illuminate each other.

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    9. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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      Replying to @DRMacIver @GeniesLoki and

      OK that sounds better. I still like to hold off doing too much of those things for a while, but they are very useful

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    10. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver May 12
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      Replying to @drossbucket @GeniesLoki and

      I think mostly I'm always going to be looking for synthesis in the end anyway, so it helps me to get in doing that early.

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      Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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      Replying to @DRMacIver @GeniesLoki and

      Yeah, I'm looking for synthesis in the end too. I just find I have to be quite gentle with the new thing to let enough of it get in. (this is all kind of vague and general. I probably need to think through specific cases. but brain is fried atm from stupid work bug.)

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        2. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver May 12
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          Replying to @drossbucket

          It's possible I'm just more impatient than you are. But also it's possible you engage with harder material and/or learn it more thoroughly than I do TBH. Often my understanding of a subject ends up a little alien to that of people who actually work in it.

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        3. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 12
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          maaaybe engage with harder material, yes, almost certainly don't learn it more thoroughly. Normally end up with a pretty sloppy understanding. I'm pretty sure I read very differently to you in general - much less, much slower, but prob more intense focus on what I do read.

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