Will report back. It may be non-representative because this is for a subject that I know rather a lot about, so the main blocker was motivation rather than creation.
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Replying to @DRMacIver
I fairly often junk an early version of something and rewrite mostly from scratch, preserving small bits that seem OK. And I’m often aware while writing something that it’s not great and I may have to do that. And sometimes I explicitly think “this is just a throw-away version.”
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Replying to @Meaningness
The overwhelming majority of what I write is written in one sitting, with no more than about 1-3 hours passing between first word and clicking publish (or at least a finished first draft to send to beta readers). It works very well when it's viable at all, but sometimes it isn't.
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Replying to @DRMacIver
For the past two years I’ve been supposedly writing a book, but it takes 3+ full days of re-reading it to get the structure back into my head, and two days away means it drops back out so I have to start over, and uninterrupted periods of >3 days have been rare; so slow progress.
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Replying to @Meaningness
I feel like if it takes 3 days to get the structure back in your head then you're writing it in an insufficiently modular way, but I admit I've no actual experience of writing a non-trivial book and this is mostly an opinion derived from writing software.
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Replying to @DRMacIver
That is absolutely the case! I’ve written only one finished book before (plus several unfinished ones, ugh) and this one is unique in that way. It’s trying to convey an understanding of the relationships among three things (reasonableness, rationality, meta-rationality) >
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Replying to @Meaningness @DRMacIver
> that are densely linked, and the discussion of each aspect of each seems to have to explicitly make the connections to the other two (as well as explaining itself in its own terms). I’ve never come across anything like it, structurally. >
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Replying to @Meaningness @DRMacIver
> I do worry that if *I* can’t keep the structure in my head, readers won’t be able to either. Which is part of why the linkages seem to want to be made so explicit. And why the text needs to be extremely clear and simple, which is a job.
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Replying to @Meaningness
Maybe it would be useful for you to try some writing exercises in this space in the opposite direction? e.g. suppose you had to write no more than 500 words of up goer five prose (https://splasho.com/upgoer5/ ) about it, what would you write?
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Replying to @DRMacIver @Meaningness
Up goer five style is actually terrible for comprehensibility IMO, and certainly not a goal to aim for for the over all text, but the act of writing in that style can be usefully clarifying.
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I wrote a whole academic poster in that editor once, and it was definitely an interesting exercise. But yeah, the end result was not exactly a great piece of writing.
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Replying to @drossbucket @Meaningness
Yeah it's kinda a way of creating a text that almost anyone could understand but almost nobody would want to
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There's this general label I have of "an interesting point in the design space" which usually means "thanks I hate it" mixed with "it was useful for me to understand why I hate it and to consider it as an existence proof". Upgoer texts are interesting points in the design space.
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