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Heart rhythm doc, writer/podcaster for @Medscape, learner, cyclist, married to an #HPM doctor. #MedicalConservative. The more you see, the harder medicine gets

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    John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

    Well, just when we seemingly hit a lull in #COVID19 news, the former dean of Harvard Med School @jflier and @VPrasadMDMPH pen an important editorial on the dangers of demonizing opposing views in science. https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/27/hear-scientists-different-views-covid-19-dont-attack-them/ … Brief Thread

    5:28 AM - 28 Apr 2020
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      2. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        John Mandrola, MD Retweeted Mark Lindsay

        A good string here with @MarkELindsay and @venkmurthy about the tone policing going on in social media surrounding #COVID19 issues. But also in science in general. https://twitter.com/MarkELindsay/status/1254983167632703494 … We must remember all scientific papers have flaws. Pointing them out is not personal.

        John Mandrola, MD added,

        Mark Lindsay @MarkELindsay
        "When major decisions must be made amid high scientific uncertainty, as is the case with Covid-19, we can’t afford to SILENCE or demonize professional colleagues with heterodox views." https://twitter.com/VPrasadMDMPH/status/1254973962766843906 …
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      3. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        John Mandrola, MD Retweeted Dr. Angela Rasmussen

        The striking thing about @COVID19 is how tribal the debate has become. That's not good. Here is an academic emailing another academic's boss asking to retract a Tweet expressing differing view on maskshttps://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1254957405432975360 …

        John Mandrola, MD added,

        Dr. Angela RasmussenVerified account @angie_rasmussen
        Hey, mask enthusiasts. Cool to disagree and debate the merits of various positions. Not cool to see that a woman criticized your interpretation of the data and, rather than wait for her to respond to your multiple responses, email her boss and demand that she retract a tweet. https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1254918783975620608 … pic.twitter.com/JUcLUhcfmr
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      4. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        The one sure thing about #COVID19 is uncertainty. Sweden may be wrong, but it may be right. It doesn't help that every response to a Tweet on Sweden is another Tweet showing a spike in deaths, when we ought to know the endpoint is next year not next month. Prasad and Flier--pic.twitter.com/UHnAL3BbPf

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      5. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        Is it not more dangerous for the public to have officials dismiss this uncertainty? Multiple German colleagues have confirmed the thesis of this Atlantic article that A. Merkel's transparency contributes to the German success https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/04/angela-merkel-germany-coronavirus-pandemic/610225/ …

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      6. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        On the matter of the Santa Clara paper from Ioannidis and colleagues, yes, there were problems, but as my trialists friends have beaten into me over the years, “not statistically significant” is not the same thing as “no effect. See A Gelman https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/04/19/fatal-flaws-in-stanford-study-of-coronavirus-prevalence/ …pic.twitter.com/9dtoGI6WLn

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      7. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        Without diminishing the people who have died from #COVID19, we must remember that people harmed by the shutdown of businesses, the poor, who are getting poorer, do not have a voice in the public debate. Public intellectuals have the luxury of videoconferencing.

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      8. John Mandrola, MD‏Verified account @drjohnm 28 Apr 2020

        Last: All docs learn that any therapy comes with harms. Treating COVID19 is no different. I see much less discussion about the off-target morbidity and mortality caused from the intervention. Exhibit A--people with chronic conditions put out of work who can no longer afford meds

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      1. Jeffrey Flier‏ @jflier 28 Apr 2020
        Replying to @drjohnm @VPrasadMDMPH

        Thank you.

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      1. barttels‏ @barttels2 28 Apr 2020
        Replying to @drjohnm @jflier @VPrasadMDMPH

        Epic level irony that vicious tribalism digs in, in the face of massive uncertainties. "One of the lingering questions of the pandemic has been how many people actually have the disease." Along with various trade-offs & collateral damage. While we still willingly go along.

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      2. 𝒌𝒆𝒗𝒊𝒏 𝒌𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒓‏ @radiokeller 28 Apr 2020
        Replying to @drjohnm @jflier @VPrasadMDMPH

        here’s an opposing view from someone who admires VP & JPAI: the op-ed was navel-gazing drivel, water-carrying for a scientist who produced the kind of work he himself wld normally criticize & then shamelessly promoted its fallacious conclusions to any trump surrogate who’d listen

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      3. 𝒌𝒆𝒗𝒊𝒏 𝒌𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒓‏ @radiokeller 28 Apr 2020
        Replying to @radiokeller @drjohnm and

        the sooner some scientists realize that this pandemic is not only a public health but also an economic and political crisis, and that the right is looking for any cover it can find to sell out the lives of working people for a buck, the better. lives are at stake

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