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electronic trading technologist, illiquid commodity futures enthusiast, hedge fund/HFT apologist, big idiot

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    1. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

      since GME/AMC-palooza is back on the TL (for some reason, can’t imagine why!) i thought it might be useful to review the fundamentals of the business relationship between MMs and retail brokerages

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    2. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

      Firstly: retail traders access liquidity either by placing a limit order that rests on the book, or by paying for immediate liquidity via crossing the spread (using market or marketable limit orders)

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    3. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

      MMs quote prices on both sides of the book such that they can realize PnL on the spread. The basic business model is that MMs provide the service of liquidity, and the price they charge for this service is the spread.

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    4. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

      This service isn’t riskless or trivial to provide. For example, if prices change enough between the time that a MM enters and exits the market, they can lose more money on price action than they earned on the spread.

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    5. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

      This is problematic because MMs can only control the timing of order entry for their price quotes; the timing of actual trade *execution* crucially depends on someone actually *crossing* the spread

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      drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

      When a highly informed counterparty gobbles up liquidity, that should make a MM think twice about the relative staleness of their quote! In other words, they have a reason to think that their counterparties are more informed about price action.

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        2. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          As a *very general* rule of thumb, a MM should believe that price will trend down if lots of people cross the spread to sell, and that price will trend up if lots of people cross the spread to buy

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        3. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          In an effort to avoid this phenomenon (called adverse selection), MMs try to keep inventory as low as possible and stay hedged so as to avoid directional market risk. But it can’t be avoided completely

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        4. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          Ideally you want to have counterparties least likely to take advantage of stale quotes, i.e. the “least toxic” counterparties. This means that there is economic value inherent to non-toxic flow.

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        5. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          If you’re a retail trader, this means you! What makes retail nontoxic is that it tends to be substantially more *random* in the aggregate, which means it is less likely to attack a MMs stale quotes and lose them money.

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        6. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          So if MMs value nontoxic flow, payment for order flow represents *the monetization of that value*. What MMs are paying for is a counterparty that is statistically less likely to adversely select against them on a trade-by-trade basis.

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        7. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          In the highly competitive market of US equities MM, purchasing nontoxic retail flow is a loss reduction technique. So why is that good for a retail trader? The answer here is price improvement.

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        8. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          Essentially, part of the PFOF payment is set aside to give the retail trader a better price than the NBBO.

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        9. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          In the idealized form of this arrangement, the MM, broker, and retail investor all “win”. PFOF results in a tighter spread paid by retail traders for the service of instant liquidity, the brokers get a new revenue stream, and MMs get better, less toxic flow.

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        10. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          So why all the anguish over PFOF? Let's review arguments against such as they are.

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        11. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          the first argument against PFOF cuts directly against the argument for it: the argument is that price improvement figures are overestimated and that retail traders are not getting better prices.

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        12. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          The NBBO putatively represents the best bid and offer price for any given stock, but it turns to not necessarily be the case. Odd lot orders—orders for fewer than 100 shares— placed inside the NBBO are exempt from the NBBO calculation.

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        13. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          In addition, there is dark pool liquidity which is often priced at the NBBO midpoint and also not factored in.

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        14. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          The second argument against PFOF is that having retail on exchange would tighten spreads. One important thing to note about PI statistics is that they assume that the NBBO spread is static, but it isn’t. In fact it’s quite likely that the spread would change with retail flow.

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        15. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          Since lit market market makers have to interface with statistically more toxic flow, they have to quote wider spreads to compensate for the “cost” implicit in trading with that flow. So the argument is that making lit flow less toxic would cause MMs to quote higher spreads.

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        16. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          The third and final argument against PFOF is that there is a data/information advantage that is conferred to MMs because they get to see retail flow first.

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        17. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          For example, if a MM sees retail flow directionally tilted towards selling, they will quote their bid on-exchange lower than the NBB.

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        18. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          This has an effect on competition in the market making industry: other MMs without this data face disproportionately higher adverse selection when their orders execute at an NBBO price which is “crumbling” or otherwise quickly changing.

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        19. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          And it’s worth mentioning here that this factors into why there have been so few new retail equity MMs in the last ~20 years: MMs have to work to set up these relationships with retail brokerages and create commercial arrangements to buy flow.

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        20. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          The combination of the information advantage conferred by PFOF plus the duopolistic concentration in equities wholesaling means that the two largest firms in effect have strong knowledge of the direction of the NBBO, pricing others out of the business.

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        21. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          However, we should be clear that the information advantage does not equate to MMs “frontrunning” their clients, it merely means they are pricing differently than their competitors outside the NBBO and getting picked off at lower rates.

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        22. drew‏ @drewg__ Sep 30

          Anyway I hope this was helpful, I’m sure I made mistakes and typos as i wrote this in a few minutes after the twitter space. i also left out some deeper cases in the effort to stay brief and readable. anyway jump into the replies to yell at me all you want 💯

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