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Dr. Dorothy Kim
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Dr. Dorothy Kim

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Medievalist, digital humanist, intersectional feminist. She/her/hers.

Joined April 2012

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    1. Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      The system is never going to treat them equitably even if they know the rules the best. This is literally what the definition of respectability politics is. Sure students need to know the system but not to comply and become the perfect marginal subject.

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    2. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @dorothyk98 @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      I am saying that I respect my students who feel equally marginalised by all of us 'grown up' academics. A student of mine who is wondering if she's a lesbian may need to know that that's a question I thought about too, and it's part of my academic work.

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    3. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @dorothyk98 and

      Such a student needs to see me be uncertain and anxious - a 'work in progress'. She needs to realise *on a personal level* that my work is shaped by my own emerging sense of identity - and so can hers be.

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    4. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @dorothyk98 and

      I'm thinking esp. of students who might read Dinshaw and feel utterly alienated, because that's now how they feel 'queer'. Dinshaw is brilliant, yes. But a student might need and deserve space to say 'I feel uncomfortable with this, and I'll write an essay about it'.

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    5. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @dorothyk98 and

      I firmly believe this is work only the student - the individual - can do for themselves. Reading someone else expressing their own doubts won't cut it. They must learn that to be an academic *is* to be doubtful, and personal, and imperfect - and that's ok.

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    6. Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      Again I am really not sure how this fits w/ your early statement about students having to learn the system. What you are discussing is critique. Students have every right to critique. And they do.

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    7. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @dorothyk98 @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      No: we must be honest about the system. Students may do what they will with the information. But honesty is a basic requirement. (This wasn't actually my comment, I think?)

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    8. Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      But only certain bodies get to be vulnerable in front of students without consequence. At least in N. America, evaluation statistics and studies bear that out. Authority is often envisaged as white and often male. What you do or John does may or will not work for other bodies.

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    9. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @dorothyk98 @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      Absolutely. When I was married to a man, I was very conscious of how differently my sexuality played, and how vulnerable it feels to out myself now (as I did there). And also conscious it's a choice many students don't have.

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    10. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @dorothyk98 and

      And as you say, some of us can't afford to be vulnerable. I have had students who couldn't even talk about sexuality. But I think, if we can, being visible is helpful to them. Even if maybe they can't say so.

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      Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 10 Jan 2018
      Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @aspencerhall @romaiophron

      I think this is a topic that you probably need more time to make clear what you are saying about pedagogy and vulnerability. And also what you mean by the comments about feminist activism etc. I think you just need to formulate exactly what you are trying to say.

      2:39 PM - 10 Jan 2018
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        2. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
          Replying to @dorothyk98 @aspencerhall @romaiophron

          I think it's twitter as a medium - I'm not following you terribly well either, but perhaps this is a sign we all just needed more time!

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        3. Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 10 Jan 2018
          Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @aspencerhall @romaiophron

          I really just think there were things you said that were not clear in the roundtable and you seemed not to understand my questions in relation to what you said. I think you just need to figure out what your point is about pedagogy, feminism, and vulnerability. You ended up going

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        2. Dr Lucy Allen-Goss‏ @LucyAllenFWR 10 Jan 2018
          Replying to @dorothyk98 @aspencerhall @romaiophron

          I do think, though - part of my point was that I, as an academic, can be inarticulate. Sometimes because talking about identity is hard, and personal, and fraught. It's no bad thing my students see that, rather than the polished 'published' version.

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        3. Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 10 Jan 2018
          Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @aspencerhall @romaiophron

          My point was that autoethnography discusses this and the messiness of feminist praxis. There are places where these discussions have and are currently happening. Why reinvent the wheel?

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