The listserve is white hell.
I have been on so many listerves where it has just gone and blown up. And because it's a reply all rather than say in a forum or another scholarly communication venue, it means everyone gets these responses and it just goes terribly.
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And it is always the same ppl.
End of conversation
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They often are the first response scholarly communication venue. A move from getting a newsletter. And most societies never considered getting a code of conduct together & then moderation rules. So everyone just thought ppl would be “nice” and “professional”. So mod rules were
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We’re never discussed or even if you break the rules if you would be removed. Every listserve I have been on has mushroomed into a hot mess of terrible.
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