Cool. But have you asked the MOCs who left the org what they think about ‘saving’ the org? Cause if not you’re not an ally.
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Replying to @heyouonline
You have hit exactly on my problem with your tweets, Helen! Let’s not talk “about” what MOC want but rather talk with MOC. I honestly think education and discussion can combat racism, and I hope you come to believe that as well.
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Replying to @kwymer6 @heyouonline
Hi Kathryn -- no disrespect meant here, but if you'd been paying attention to the conversation you'd know that literally no MOC have come out saying that they want the organization preserved. No one can speak for all, but the voice of those active in the conversation is clear.
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Replying to @HalstedMedieval @heyouonline
I hear you, but Helen is saying that trying to transform the society is a racist action and has accused my friend of racism. I just can’t see how wanting trying to transform an academic society to be better is racist?
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Many people, in particular
@ISASaxonists and@dorothyk98, have discussed how ISXX is firmly entrenched in white supremacy. We can't do the work to reform because its governing structures are elitist & racist, and the board is unwilling to change or challenge that.2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes -
Replying to @HalstedMedieval @kwymer6 and
And just because they say it doesn't mean it's unambiguously right. There are more voices than those of the people you mention. It's an issue worthy of respectful, intelligent discussion among pdoe of good will. Blanketly dubbing everyone a racist who disagrees is bullshit.
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It doesn't. But I do think it's the duty of white people (myself obviously included) to reflect when called racist rather than lash out. As well as to listen to POC, obvi.
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Replying to @HalstedMedieval @kwymer6 and
Oh, so teaching at an HBCU for years doesn't equate to reflection? Please explain that to me.
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Replying to @SGTKristenC @HalstedMedieval and
How did teaching at an HBCU not make clear that white ppl should always center the most vulnerable? Did we skip this anti racism training 101. Your HBCU is not a shield. This is like the group version of I have a black friend/family. My fascist stalker teaches at an HBCU.
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Replying to @dorothyk98 @HalstedMedieval and
You’re right... I’m not claiming anything about my HBCU giving me any right to speak. That’s true. I also think centering vulnerable people is important. But why is everyone attacking a trans woman who is trying to take on the work?
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Mainly the question is more why does she keep telling us that we need to stay. We've already tried to do the work and it didn't work. We are out. We've made that clear. If she wants to stay and do things that is up to her. It is a white supremacist org.
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Replying to @dorothyk98 @kwymer6 and
I'm not telling you that you need to stay (Ive not called for MOC to stay, for the record). Go if you like, and I empathize with that, based on my own experiences True, I wish you wouldn't, because I would like to make this a better place. But do what you got to do. I get it.
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