You have hit exactly on my problem with your tweets, Helen! Let’s not talk “about” what MOC want but rather talk with MOC. I honestly think education and discussion can combat racism, and I hope you come to believe that as well.
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Replying to @kwymer6 @heyouonline
Hi Kathryn -- no disrespect meant here, but if you'd been paying attention to the conversation you'd know that literally no MOC have come out saying that they want the organization preserved. No one can speak for all, but the voice of those active in the conversation is clear.
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Replying to @HalstedMedieval @heyouonline
I hear you, but Helen is saying that trying to transform the society is a racist action and has accused my friend of racism. I just can’t see how wanting trying to transform an academic society to be better is racist?
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Replying to @kwymer6 @heyouonline
Many people, in particular
@ISASaxonists and@dorothyk98, have discussed how ISXX is firmly entrenched in white supremacy. We can't do the work to reform because its governing structures are elitist & racist, and the board is unwilling to change or challenge that.2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes -
Replying to @HalstedMedieval @kwymer6 and
And just because they say it doesn't mean it's unambiguously right. There are more voices than those of the people you mention. It's an issue worthy of respectful, intelligent discussion among pdoe of good will. Blanketly dubbing everyone a racist who disagrees is bullshit.
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Replying to @SGTKristenC @kwymer6 and
It doesn't. But I do think it's the duty of white people (myself obviously included) to reflect when called racist rather than lash out. As well as to listen to POC, obvi.
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Replying to @HalstedMedieval @kwymer6 and
Oh, so teaching at an HBCU for years doesn't equate to reflection? Please explain that to me.
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Replying to @SGTKristenC @HalstedMedieval and
How did teaching at an HBCU not make clear that white ppl should always center the most vulnerable? Did we skip this anti racism training 101. Your HBCU is not a shield. This is like the group version of I have a black friend/family. My fascist stalker teaches at an HBCU.
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Replying to @dorothyk98 @HalstedMedieval and
And somehow your expertise b/c you have the HBCU shield vs. the lived experiences of BIPOC ppl is really demonstrating your antiracism? This is basic allyship 101: Do not make BIPOC ppl your shield. Listen. Stop centering whiteness. I could go on.
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Replying to @dorothyk98 @HalstedMedieval and
I could throw back at you the lived experiences of a trans person. You know nothing about it. The one card you got is calling people racist. You rely on the fact that folks will buy it regardless of its truth value. I'm all in. Lets go.
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The MOCs who have left the org are not interested in staying. It is toxic on too many fronts. That is pretty much it. There are other orgs we would rather put our energies to.
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Replying to @dorothyk98 @HalstedMedieval and
I respect that. Those MOCs who have left ISXX did so of their conscience. I thought about doing the same thing, frankly. But I think I can talk to these people and make some inroads. That, to me, seems worth it. Whether it is or not, I am going to try. Not asking for support.
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