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Dr. Dorothy Kim
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Dr. Dorothy Kim

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Medievalist, digital humanist, intersectional feminist. She/her/hers.

Joined April 2012

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    1. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @davykind

      What’s most important is not whether you listen to me about my view on Trans personhood. We need to listen to Trans people. And that doesn’t preclude listening to women or other marginalized people. But none of us should be arguing against the personhood of Trans people.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @davykind

      By “personhood,” I mean the basic human rights of Trans people, and especially their right to live in the world safely. Binary gender/sex is a construct. The lived experience of Trans people is not. The death of Trans people on college campuses is not.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @davykind

      No Trans people (that I’ve seen here) are arguing women do not exist or that their lived experience is not real. For Trans people, these are things the Times letter puts up for debate. The existence, identity, personhood of Trans people is not up for academic (or any) debate.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @davykind

      Of course, there are outliers, and misogyny is incredibly real. But the hundreds (now thousands) of academics who have signed or affirmed the Times letter have gone on record. To be clear, their transphobia, is on record.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Dr Rebecca Williams‏ @Volcanologist 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @davykind

      Hang on, the original Times letter has accumulated more signatures? I didn't realise it was an open letter, and I haven't seen it circulated (though that's probably because of how I curate my timeline).

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Volcanologist @davykind

      It has been circulated and championed and affirmed by many more academics. The original tweet where it was shared, for example, now has 579 retweets and 1320 likes (some condemnation in the replies but also lots of support). The original signatories haven’t changed.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @Volcanologist @davykind

      I have been shocked by the amount of public support the original letter has gotten. And, of course, I am also glad for the even greater support I’ve seen for the counter-letters. But I think we all have lots more work to do to create inclusive spaces for Trans people in academia.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Amber Thomas‏ @ambrouk 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @Volcanologist @davykind

      I am reluctant to comment because this is such a loaded issue. I dont think the signatories are denying the existence of trans people. I think they are agreeing that both sex and gender are complex and there are multiple ways to talk about it.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @ambrouk @Volcanologist @davykind

      I wish that “sex and gender are complex” is what I saw in that letter. I saw just the opposite. The letter (and other public writing of the contributors) argues that biological sex is undeniable and associates biological sex in an unnuanced way with genitalia and chromosomes.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Jesse Stommel‏Verified account @Jessifer 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @ambrouk and

      I see the letter (and other writing of the contributors) as denying gender as a category distinct from sex. As someone who has taught queer theory for many years, I am in favor of complex discussions of all these things. I see the letter as shutting down those conversations.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      Dr. Dorothy Kim‏ @dorothyk98 22 Jun 2019
      Replying to @Jessifer @ambrouk and

      And let us all be clear here, TERFs are another entry point for white supremacy and please don't tell me academics can't uphold white supremacy. That is so laughable.https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1088180524504571908.html …

      12:03 PM - 22 Jun 2019
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        2. Amber Thomas‏ @ambrouk 22 Jun 2019
          Replying to @dorothyk98 @Jessifer and

          My mind is boggled by this, just wow.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Pgogy WebStuff‏ @Pgogy 22 Jun 2019
          Replying to @ambrouk @dorothyk98 and

          I love how the ad i get on that post is for breast augmentation..... thank you algorithms

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        2. Amber Thomas‏ @ambrouk 22 Jun 2019
          Replying to @dorothyk98 @Jessifer and

          Actually the lesbian-shouldn't-prefer-vaginas thing sounds like an "incel" (involuntary celebacy) argument, which is an unfortunate twist because incel arguments are associated with white supremacy and violence against women.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 22 Jun 2019
          Replying to @ambrouk @dorothyk98 and

          It’s not an incel argument. At all. The point is that it reduces a person’s identity to their genitalia and that is dehumanizing. No one is forcing her to date a trans woman here but it’s really a roundabout way of denying trans and nb people their gender identities.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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