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Dave Nanian

@dnanian

Owner of Shirt Pocket. Unredeemed gadget fan. Dog lover. Not that way.

Joined June 2008
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    Dave Nanian ‏@dnanian 19 Oct 2013

    So, yeah, this is a [REDACTEDS] security violation: tell application "System Events"  return exists process "SuperDuper!" end tell

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      1. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 15 Nov 2013

        @dnanian This similar script seems to work fine: tell application "System Events" to get first process whose creator type is "SdPr"

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      3. Dave Nanian ‏@dnanian 15 Nov 2013

        @mjtsai I am at a loss to understand why that would not be a security violation, where “exists process “SuperDuper!”” isn’t.

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      4. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 15 Nov 2013

        @dnanian Me, too. Good news is that my scripts still work. (For now?)

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      5. Dave Nanian ‏@dnanian 15 Nov 2013

        @mjtsai Hopefully “for ever”. :-)

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      1. Felix Schwarz ‏@felix_schwarz 20 Oct 2013

        @dnanian You can use System Events' process objects to access & control an app's UI elements. That's probably why.

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      2. Dave Nanian ‏@dnanian 20 Oct 2013 Weston, MA

        @felix_schwarz Doing *that* should prompt, then. I mean, the app could silently delete all your files, too...

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      4. Felix Schwarz ‏@felix_schwarz 20 Oct 2013

        @dnanian … overlooked that there are valid reasons to use "process" objects for things other than UI automation.

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      6. Dave Nanian ‏@dnanian 20 Oct 2013 Weston, MA

        @felix_schwarz Alas, this is going to confuse tons of my users...and this is the documented way of checking.

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      8. Felix Schwarz ‏@felix_schwarz 20 Oct 2013

        @dnanian …relaunch an application before the change in the Security settings takes effect. Definitely not a good user experience :-(

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      10. Peter Maurer ‏@petermaurer 20 Oct 2013

        @felix_schwarz @dnanian We're all in for a ton of one star reviews. :/

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      11. Dave Nanian ‏@dnanian 20 Oct 2013

        @petermaurer @felix_schwarz Fortunately, we’re not in the App Store. This stuff is happening even on “unsandboxed” apps. Craziness/awful.

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      12. Peter Maurer ‏@petermaurer 20 Oct 2013

        @dnanian @felix_schwarz The apps I'm talking about aren't sandboxed either — they're living MAS fossils.

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