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    1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

       🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 Retweeted Unicorn Riot

      This stuff is tricky. For an event I personally organized, here's how I would handle it: MAGA hat is okay. Nazi imagery is not okay, remove it or I'll kick you out. Snatching another attendee's clothes is not okay, there are staff for a reason. So I'd kick them out too.https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1020705737826349058 …

       🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 added,

      Unicorn Riot @UR_Ninja
      A “nationalist” wearing a ‘Make America Great Again’ hat, who said he attended #UnitetheRight in Charlottesville, had his hat taken at #HOPEconf. HOPE staff took the hat back,when asked by event attendees “is fascist symbolism appropriate at HOPE?” a conference staffer said “yes”
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    2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

      I'm torn on whether having participated in Unite the Right is an automatic disqualifier. Depends on the event and the context, I guess.

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    3.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

      Defend to the death your right to say it, blah blah blah, but aggro people can easily ruin everyone else's experience...

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    4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

      For the record, re: codes of conduct in general, I favor having a blanket "don't be an asshole" rule and then adjudicating that on a case-by-case basis. Detailed CoCs are mostly about signaling; they tend to be enforced the way I described. (For example, that awful npm employee.)

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    5.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

      I think "don't be an asshole" definitely precludes *bragging* about having attended Unite the Right. So if that part is accurate, in the hypothetical world where I'm in charge, I'd tell the guy to get out.

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    6.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

       🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 Retweeted Dolores  🏴 ✨

      Good thread of additional points from Dolores here:https://twitter.com/ambrosialarts/status/1020750808915197952?s=21 …

       🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 added,

      Dolores  🏴 ✨ @AmbrosialArts
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann
      Would it include attending a PSL rally? What about an #AbolishICE protest? What if the #AbolishICE protest was held by the PSL?
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    7.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

      Does a Mao shirt get the same treatment as a Hitler shirt? At a conference, yes. At a party... debatable. I think then with *either* a Mao or Hitler shirt it would depend on how they reacted when confronted. Sincere or edgelord?

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    8.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21

      Like at a party if I called out someone's murderous dictator shirt and they said "oh shit I'm sorry, I didn't realize it would upset people" and then put on a jacket, I wouldn't make them leave. Whereas if they were like "lol that offends you, loser?" I would eject them.

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      sam atman‏ @djinnius Jul 21
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      1.4 billion people live under Maoist rule. Much though I like the even-handedness of the comparison, this makes it different. You can literally buy a Mao T-shirt at the Forbidden City.

      2:10 PM - 21 Jul 2018
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        1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 21
          Replying to @djinnius

          Yeah I agree, and there's a Keynesian beauty contest aspect to say a swastika (at least in American culture) that there isn't to the hammer and sickle

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