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Replying to @djinnius
There are of course a significant number of distinctions. But the direction is inauspicious.
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Replying to @miniver
It's a terrible policy on its own merits. Scaring people into not crossing the border might work, it might not, it's... I guess un-American. Yeah, that sounds right, still, barely. The only way to lose ground on this issue is to make foolish, easily refuted comparisons.
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Suggested framing: The 8th Amendment doesn't apply to non-citizens. But! ICE are citizens, are they not? I say the _infliction_ of cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited.
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I should probably have looked up the wording before I wrote this. That is the straightforward reading of the 8th, it is a prohibition against the government, not (phrased as) a right of citizens. Compare with the 6th.
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