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    1. Jonathan Korman  🔥 🗽‏ @miniver Jun 14

      Jonathan Korman  🔥 🗽 Retweeted Augustus 🇺🇸

      Immediately after the war, Germans developed a comforting myth that ordinary people did not know what happened under the Nazis. But later scholarship looked at newspaper archives et cetera and demonstrated conclusively that they knew. They knew about practically all of it.https://twitter.com/augustus709/status/1006951122479796225 …

      Jonathan Korman  🔥 🗽 added,

      Augustus 🇺🇸 @Augustus709
      I wonder, do MAGA people defend the separation of migrant children from their parents? I thought, this is a bridge too far even for them. Nope. Some of them are fully on board. I'm beginning to understand how people in Nazi Germany went along with the Nazi reign of terror.
      4 replies 78 retweets 138 likes
      sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 14
      Replying to @miniver

      It's midterms, @miniver. This is four-more-years logic. You have to know that. To demonstrate good faith in argument, please point out the three major distinctions between the narzies and ICEs current policy.

      8:01 AM - 14 Jun 2018
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        2. Jonathan Korman  🔥 🗽‏ @miniver Jun 14
          Replying to @djinnius

          There are of course a significant number of distinctions. But the direction is inauspicious.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 14
          Replying to @miniver

          It's a terrible policy on its own merits. Scaring people into not crossing the border might work, it might not, it's... I guess un-American. Yeah, that sounds right, still, barely. The only way to lose ground on this issue is to make foolish, easily refuted comparisons.

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        4. sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 14
          Replying to @djinnius @miniver

          Suggested framing: The 8th Amendment doesn't apply to non-citizens. But! ICE are citizens, are they not? I say the _infliction_ of cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 14
          Replying to @djinnius @miniver

          You might notice that this addresses a couple other problems we've had trouble living with, over the years.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Jonathan Korman  🔥 🗽‏ @miniver Jun 14
          Replying to @djinnius

          There is quite a bit of Constitutional law about the distinction between protections for citizens vs protections for people. Most protections apply to PEOPLE.

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        7. sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 14
          Replying to @miniver

          And for the 8th, it's phrased purely as a prohibition against Government action. All three clauses.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Jonathan Korman  🔥 🗽‏ @miniver Jun 14
          Replying to @djinnius

          Aye.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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