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    1.  🎃‏ @turtlekiosk Jun 8

      i think people get frustrated because they arrived at their ethics via logic but unconditional solidarity (aka loyalty) is a product of irrationality

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    2. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 8
      Replying to @chc40 @turtlekiosk

      ethics could sort-of be logical if we have a good enough model of the human brain (including all varieties of diversity) and understand how actions interact at scale too bad we're not anywhere close to having these things yet

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      sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 8
      Replying to @simpolism @chc40 @turtlekiosk

      no, there is no ethics without aesthetics and aesthetics cannot be logically derived please, my family, it's dying

      1:18 PM - 8 Jun 2018
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        2. sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 8
          Replying to @djinnius @simpolism and

          most of our brain is that good-enough model of human brains

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        3.  🎃‏ @turtlekiosk Jun 8
          Replying to @djinnius @simpolism @chc40

          a brain-haver would say that

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        2. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 8
          Replying to @djinnius @chc40 @turtlekiosk

          > aesthetics cannot be logically derived ...actually... 😏

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        3. sam atman‏ @djinnius Jun 8
          Replying to @simpolism @chc40 @turtlekiosk

          me, sobbing: you can't just keep pointing at mathematical formalisms and calling them logic! You, pointing at the Nature of Order: logic

          0 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
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        2. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jun 8
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          Dan Garfield @danlistensto
          I think aesthetics is really undervalued in its importance in both ethics and rationality. We like to imagine that our sense of beautiful is distinct from what we judge as good and/or true, but I think that is a self-delusion.
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        3. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jun 8
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          Dan Garfield @danlistensto
          Replying to @simpolism @eigenrobot and 6 others
          galaxy brain: aesthetics = ethics
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