It’s a war on families and reproduction
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Replying to @bierlingm
I mean, I'm an antinatalist so I'm not unhappy about that part, but it seems bad for everyone to be miserable. You might enjoy:http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/
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Replying to @bierlingm
You can't get someone's consent to bring them into existence. And you never know when you're going to inflict a debilitating disability on this new life you've created
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann
Why does consent matter? And are you ok with humans simply dying out? You do recognize that this is a self-limiting pattern?
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Replying to @bierlingm
1) I think it matters a lot. One of my deontological principles. 2) Yes, I think it'd be better if humans died out altogether. I don't expect that to happen soon or voluntarily, but I think it would be ethically preferable. 3) Yes. As previously linked:http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @bierlingm
Does this imply some sort of vital essence or the like? If Mr XY and Ms XX consent and Ms XX is into bringing to term, isn't babby the sum of those consents and nothing more?
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Replying to @djinnius @bierlingm
Hmm, I do think so? the gamete is a separate entity
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @bierlingm
It is, sure, but the one cell isn't doing much thinking, if any. Eggs don't choose the first sperm to come along, and the uterine lining has to cooperate or no dice.
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There's some kind of moral 'island of stability' here where someone who isn't me or you might be anti-natal /because/ Plan B is murder. I don't think that's your case.
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I also think anti-natalism is a valid life choice, and have no riposte to the argument from misanthropy, those are just different values.
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Replying to @djinnius @bierlingm
Oh I do think abortion is murder, I just don't always think murder is bad :P
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