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Rationalist, unschooler, clicker training enthusiast, Dorothy Dunnett lover, married to @WilliamAEden. Hanging out with my kids and trying to figure stuff out.

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    Divia Eden‏ @diviacaroline Nov 20

    Please please no government-run universal daycare/preK. Can we just do a voucher or cash transfer to parents of young kids instead? Means-tested would be fine. It’s too sad if people want to stay with their kids but the incentives mean they work some dumb job instead :-(.

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      2. Divia Eden‏ @diviacaroline Nov 20

        I’m not against daycare for young kids—families are all different and complicated! So are childcare arrangements! But I don’t want to stack the deck against parents who stay home and shift culture towards stay-at-home parenting being weird and counterculture.

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      3. Divia Eden‏ @diviacaroline Nov 21

        Divia Eden Retweeted Seracena

        To be clear, I’m not trying to make an argument about optimizing measurable kid outcomes per dollar spent. If you don’t share my deep skepticism of government-run programs and intuitive greater (though far from perfect) trust in families, 🤷‍♀️.https://twitter.com/seracena/status/1197630881537646592 …

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        Seracena @seracena
        Replying to @diviacaroline @Aella_Girl
        What's the evidence base on voucher/cash vs state run for outcomes/cost-efficiency? Have there been trials? What outcomes are we targeting? It shouldn't be considered self evident until put to trial.
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      4. Divia Eden‏ @diviacaroline Nov 21

        I agree that trusting intuition at the expense of looking at numbers is silly. My current-day intuitions seems informed by all the data I’ve seen over the years, which is a lot! I have tried to look!

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      1. Paul Crowley‏ @ciphergoth Nov 21
        Replying to @diviacaroline @Aella_Girl

        same but for schools

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      2. Seracena‏ @seracena Nov 21
        Replying to @diviacaroline @Aella_Girl

        What's the evidence base on voucher/cash vs state run for outcomes/cost-efficiency? Have there been trials? What outcomes are we targeting? It shouldn't be considered self evident until put to trial.

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      3. Divia Eden‏ @diviacaroline Nov 21
        Replying to @seracena @Aella_Girl

        I don’t know of evidence about at US f younger than kindergarten. When I dived into the evidence for regular school vouchers a while back my impression was that vouchers get the same crappy results for a little cheaper, and families prefer them. Not particularly my crux though?

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      2. UnfleshedOne‏ @UnfleshedO Nov 21
        Replying to @diviacaroline @Aella_Girl

        But surely both universal daycare and cash transfers are strictly better than current option?

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      3. UnfleshedOne‏ @UnfleshedO Nov 21
        Replying to @UnfleshedO @diviacaroline @Aella_Girl

        Currently you either spend a big chunk of your salary on daycare or give up salary and stay at home. That's a direct incentive to stay at home, and it does increase number of stay at home parents, but it is a regressive measure with overwhelmingly negative effects.

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