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    1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 9 May 2018
      Replying to @Oenotria @_shrynx and

      Stack is an impediment to learning. The NICTA course is primarily focused on learning, and so impediments are swiftly discarded.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. James‏ @Oenotria 9 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @_shrynx and

      I know you hate stack and maybe it's terrible (?) but a lot of beginners (myself included) will be following the suggested route to learning haskell suggested by @bitemyapp (CIS194 then NICTA) and switching toolsets between courses feels like a bigger impediment to learning.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 9 May 2018
      Replying to @Oenotria @_shrynx and

      I don't hate stack. It is an impediment to learning, overall, big picture. I will just keep teaching effectively, discarding all impediments, including stack. Sorry that stack was, and probably will continue to be, an impediment for you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. James‏ @Oenotria 9 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @_shrynx and

      I'm not trying to provoke an argument @dibblego and I appreciate all the material you and @bitemyapp put out there. I'm just trying point out some actual impediments I have faced when trying to learn haskell. I got comfortable with one set of tooling, now I have to ditch it.pic.twitter.com/NCXX0z5sH4

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 9 May 2018
      Replying to @Oenotria @dibblego and

      Just use Stack. Tony develops weird aversions and projects them without caring if it improves things for others. It's like hating cilantro and then going around and telling people cilantro causes cancer.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    6. James‏ @Oenotria 9 May 2018
      Replying to @bitemyapp @dibblego and

      Unfortunately I can't get Stack to work with the data61 course... :(pic.twitter.com/t36mzVip8T

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 9 May 2018
      Replying to @Oenotria @dibblego and

      https://github.com/bitemyapp/fp-course/commit/111f57327eaee869fb452d15099325155e174641 … Well it's not going to work with anything that isn't Nix and doesn't magically know what compiler to use. The above fixes it. I'll PR this so Tony can reject it even though it would strictly help people to use his course.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 9 May 2018
      Replying to @bitemyapp @Oenotria and

      @Oenotria What you are being told here is incorrect. If you are interested in learning, there are many people waiting to help you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. James‏ @Oenotria 9 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @bitemyapp and

      I haven't paid you any money so you don't owe me anything. That said, if you are genuinely interested in helping people learn haskell then you need to accept people might want to use familiar tools. Thanks for merging @snoyberg 's pull request.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. HVR‏ @hvrgnu 9 May 2018
      Replying to @Oenotria @dibblego and

      If you're in fact a beginner and are genuinely interested in learning it seems odd to me that you'd get hung up on a tooling choice rather than trusting the course instructor's experience regarding which tooling works best. Learning something new implies exploring the unfamiliar!

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 9 May 2018
      Replying to @hvrgnu @Oenotria and

      We already tried discussing this. Zero hurdles were jumped.

      4:00 PM - 9 May 2018
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        1. James‏ @Oenotria 9 May 2018
          Replying to @dibblego @hvrgnu and

          Feel free to post our complete conversation on twitter. Telling people they need to switch operating systems to learn haskell because "windows does not exist" is not a way to encourage people to learn haskell. That seems like a big hurdle to me. PS. Cilantro is delicious.

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 9 May 2018
          Replying to @Oenotria @hvrgnu and

          *eyeroll* Yes, I definitely said that. Yes.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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