Tony Morris

example: "brew install stack && stack setup && stack install" works on various mac machines I used it on to install my packages. is there anything nearly as easy as this?

There isn’t anything as easy for haskell. The problem is that many people in the haskell community don’t care about easy. The “it works for me” syndrome is very strong. I’m still waiting for a nix setup that works on macs, or with ghcjs, without endless tweaking.

No, we *do* care about easy, which is why I definitely do not use stack. If I could fob off all the pain to you every time it comes up, I think you'd change your mind about what you are calling "easy." Alas, it is me, and students, who must suffer this pain. Thanks for that.

stack has bugs. I've encountered some failed installs here and there. By and large, "stack install" works, and all alternatives to install Haskell software are an order of magnitude harder. When installing Haskell software is this hard, many give up (and I've seen it first hand)

> By and large, "stack install" works :)

Do you mean to suggest it doesn't? Maybe nix is better, but can nix be as easy as "brew install stack && stack setup && stack install" ? You are dissing stack but do you have anything better than that?

If stack has a benefit, you could point to the pain that I incur by not using it. Especially, the pain that my students incur. From my perspective, they are way ahead of stack users.

To know the pain that they incur, I'd have to know what alternative they're using. IME: Nix is hard to start with. Cabal just doesn't work, not even "by and large". I am not familiar with any other options to reasonably install Haskell software.