I've been teaching beginners for * years. I'm certain stack has never helped anyone. It's easy to make the mistake of believing otherwise.
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Replying to @dibblego @chrislpenner and
I find that hard to believe. Almost everyone I’ve introduced to
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Replying to @ajnsit @chrislpenner and
The absence of stack is an improvement, especially for beginners. The poor beginner who I am helping right now agrees. And hundreds before.
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stack lets you easily install Haskell software on common operating systems. It's the most reliable easy way to do it. That's quite a useful trait! There are more reliable ways, but they're harder so deter most beginners.
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nah
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Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh and
example: "brew install stack && stack setup && stack install" works on various mac machines I used it on to install my packages. is there anything nearly as easy as this?
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There isn’t anything as easy for haskell. The problem is that many people in the haskell community don’t care about easy. The “it works for me” syndrome is very strong. I’m still waiting for a nix setup that works on macs, or with ghcjs, without endless tweaking.
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siiigh, my students want easy, not GHCJS, Git dependencies or whatever you want. Nix works great on macOS, has one attribute to change for GHCJS and supports Got dependencies btw, but irrelevant
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Replying to @puffnfresh @ajnsit and
What do you suggest as an alternative to "stack setup && stack install"?
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If a student asks me that question, I first suggest the alternative of saying to yourself, "oh no, I hope we are not all now utterly fucked", then gently and carefully coach the student into an easier and more productive position, asking more useful questions.
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