I've been teaching beginners for * years. I'm certain stack has never helped anyone. It's easy to make the mistake of believing otherwise.
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Replying to @dibblego @chrislpenner and
I find that hard to believe. Almost everyone I’ve introduced to
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Replying to @ajnsit @chrislpenner and
The absence of stack is an improvement, especially for beginners. The poor beginner who I am helping right now agrees. And hundreds before.
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stack lets you easily install Haskell software on common operating systems. It's the most reliable easy way to do it. That's quite a useful trait! There are more reliable ways, but they're harder so deter most beginners.
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nah
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Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh and
example: "brew install stack && stack setup && stack install" works on various mac machines I used it on to install my packages. is there anything nearly as easy as this?
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There isn’t anything as easy for haskell. The problem is that many people in the haskell community don’t care about easy. The “it works for me” syndrome is very strong. I’m still waiting for a nix setup that works on macs, or with ghcjs, without endless tweaking.
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No, we *do* care about easy, which is why I definitely do not use stack. If I could fob off all the pain to you every time it comes up, I think you'd change your mind about what you are calling "easy." Alas, it is me, and students, who must suffer this pain. Thanks for that.
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If your students have faced some problems with stack then it doesn’t mean stack must die. That is a ridiculous opinion. Stack works for many people, and for many of them *nothing else works*. I personally have met people who would have given up on Haskell if not for stack.
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FYI, I am counting the strawmen. It's fucking amazing.
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