Tony Morris

I just read this whole thread.. im desperate to be convinced I don't need stack like I don't need spacemacs to use emacs, but after reading all this I still have no idea of any argument against it except feelsies. Some reason and rationale would solve these tensions I am sure.

yeah, it's just feelsies, k

group a: stack never works for anyone group b: it actually works pretty great for us (this is the extent of the "debate")

I think I got more out of it than that. For education, the argument is the pedagogical simplicity of plain GHC -- not Stack, not even Cabal. For production, the argument is new-build Cabal, and for many non-Stackers also Nix to nail FFI with some principled architecture.

You also get to see some (not all) of the deflective tactics that are deployed when pseudo-debate occurs. Especially around stack. I find it interesting, even if dishonest and non-progressive.

To be fair, many people are not saying "works on my machine" (though many are). They are asking, "please give us more details so we can fix/improve Stack." At best, the response seems to be, "I'm not actually interested in that, because Stack is not needed, hence a bad idea."

You are always too generous :) No, it was recurrent deflection, not argument, or aspirations for improvement.

My generosity is my gift to everyone. It's okay if you return to sender.