Tony Morris

Yes they have. You just didn't hear about them.

It's not like we didn't run sessions here locally in Austin. I didn't say "majority;" I'd say the number of experiences of people I've witnessed personally and heard of secondary is in the "many" range.

k, I've heard 0, so I'll just move on. I really really don't understand why people want others to use Stack so badly. I want you to not, but whatevs, continue on.

People want to use stack because it solves real problems for them. I don't see why this is incomprehensible. There are many tools that I don't use personally, while understanding why others do like then.

I want to fiddle with build tools for approximately 0 time ideally and I'm happy to accept compromises on other fronts for that. Stack is great for this. If I had other priorities I'd use other tools.

exactly but Stack is awful at this, so I move on. I also don't tell newbies to use PHP. Wanna try to talk me into that to??? I don't get it.

I have had a dramatically different experience than you to come to such differing conclusions. I don't know why, but I want you to understand that there are a lot of people with experiences similar to mine,and writing all of those people off is bizarre.

I just read this whole thread.. im desperate to be convinced I don't need stack like I don't need spacemacs to use emacs, but after reading all this I still have no idea of any argument against it except feelsies. Some reason and rationale would solve these tensions I am sure.