Stack has three things I find useful for teaching: one tool for everything, a "new" scaffolding, and --file-watch.
@dibblego lobbied against monolithic tools (so ghcid instead of --file-watch), but this to me is a professional Haskell concern, not someone just learning fresh.
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Replying to @shajra @chrislpenner and
I prefer Nix for professional Haskell work, even though curation of packages is not perfect. If we're going to say Stack is a mistake for teaching Haskell, I'd really like to know exactly what bad happens to the student.
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Replying to @shajra @chrislpenner and
Stack was such a massive improvement over what came before. If it's a mistake for teaching, that's a very recent fact.
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Replying to @mattoflambda @chrislpenner and
I have respect for
@dibblego. I've come around to his position many times in the past. So it's totally frustrating when he goes off on these anti-Stack bends and I just can't track the argument.2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
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Replying to @mattoflambda @shajra and
No argument was made. Also, you're wrong. It's not recent. It's an opinion shared by many; in particular, those who are committed to teaching effectively.
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Replying to @dibblego @mattoflambda and
it's just experience: "hey Brian so I tried to use Stack and I'm getting this weird problem..." over and over and over
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Replying to @puffnfresh @dibblego and
This is all just too vague. An opinion shared by many would get me using Scala over Haskell, so I'm not sure what to do with that. And I've not had much of "some weird error" with Stack for a while now. Did no one track it down? I mean cabal new-build is finicky still too.
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Replying to @shajra @puffnfresh and
You know what's vague? "stack is good for beginners" The hundreds of beginners, who, after three days, know Haskell/FP way better than all the people claiming this, disagree. Where to from here?
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I don't get why you feel the need for senseless insult here. Stack was great for me as a beginner and all of the beginners I've helped learn fp. It hasn't been for you. Obviously there's something going on, and it's not that either of us are in imagination land
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It also hasn't been for you. That's my claim, and I can point to why.
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