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    1. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      If you mean variables in a programming language, yes.

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    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 May 2018
      Replying to @JadenGeller

      Yeah those. So, I don't use them when I am programming. Some other people do. They pay the consequences. This is one such consequence.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      Wow, working with someone who doesn’t name intermediates sounds unpleasant.

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    4. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 May 2018
      Replying to @JadenGeller

      No, variables. These are different to values. Variables. You know, x = 0; x = x + 1. Variables.

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    5. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      I assumed you meant any sort of named binding. I agree mutability makes code harder to reason about, but I feel like that’s one of the less likely reasons for this mistake.

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    6. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 May 2018
      Replying to @JadenGeller

      I guarantee you it's the cause.

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    7. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      Interesting, why do you think that?

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    8. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 May 2018
      Replying to @JadenGeller

      "blah happened before bleh [but we missed that]" is caused by using variables, 100% of the time. Also, if you do not use variables, there cannot possibly be such a thing.

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    9. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      Huh, I disagree. It could also be caused by logging in a stage of the pipeline before the password is hashed. Like, maybe they log HTTP requests.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
      Replying to @JadenGeller @dibblego

      I definitely think you’re wrong that not using variables makes this class of bug obsolete.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 May 2018
      Replying to @JadenGeller

      It is *impossible* to have this problem without variables (side-effects). I've been not-using-variables for over 15 years now.

      2:25 AM - 4 May 2018
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        1. Jaden Geller  🧚‏ @JadenGeller 4 May 2018
          Replying to @dibblego

          If you wanted to, how would you write code the logs HTTP requests before processing them?

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 May 2018
          Replying to @JadenGeller

          I have been asked a similar question, about 8 years ago. I wrote http://argonaut.io  in response.

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