Tony Morris on Twitter: "…but they didn't communicate successfully. Nothing at all was said. No inferences were made, or can be made. No utility of the anti-concept can be exploited. You may as well have talked gibberish. The boiling point of the number 12, the perimeter of the colour purple. Nothing.… https://t.co/PSWRab9BTo"

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Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Apr 2018

Tony Morris Retweeted Uncle Bob Martin

:)https://twitter.com/unclebobmartin/status/983497201124102144 …

Tony Morris added,

Uncle Bob Martin @unclebobmartin

It is perfectly possible to write a program that is both object oriented and functional. Not only is it possible, it is desireable.

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Voytek Pituła / (@krever@mas.to)‏ @Krever01 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @dibblego

Where can I read some arguments on why FP and OOP are not orthogonal? I believe they are.

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Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @Krever01

One exists and the other does not. http://blog.higher-order.com/blog/2008/12/04/no-such-thing/ …

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Panicz Maciej Godek‏ @PaniczGodek 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @dibblego @Krever01

Panicz Maciej Godek Retweeted Hillel is on Tweet Break

Let me recall the recent @Hillelogram rant about existence: https://twitter.com/Hillelogram/status/982472799427203072 … Functional Programming doesn't exist either. In the end, all we have (what exists) is people using words. If they manage to communicate their ideas, they have used them successfully.

Panicz Maciej Godek added,

Hillel is on Tweet Break @hillelogram

Okay, so it's 2300 right now, there's another shitstorm about monads raging, and I'm drinking applesauce straight from the bottle. Let's do this shit. "Are monads pipes?" Your answer is wrong. The question is nonsense. Nonsense and stupid. It's Wittgenstein time motherfuckers!

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Panicz Maciej Godek‏ @PaniczGodek 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @PaniczGodek @dibblego and

Also, I don't think that the "criteria for a concept or a theory to be valid" provided by @runarorama don't seem to be valid themselves, or reject many useful concepts (including Functional Programming)

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Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @PaniczGodek @Krever01 and

Functional Programming has a meaning. Using this meaning, we can investigate consequences. We can build more meanings. OOP does not have a meaning. No useful inferences have been made from the OOP thesis. Here is the most honest admission of this fact:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZlxBRnxzDc#t=4117 …

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Panicz Maciej Godek‏ @PaniczGodek 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @dibblego @Krever01 and

I'd even go further: Functional Programming is all about meaning. But natural language isn't. The "game of meaning" is just one of the many language games we can play. Saying that "functional programming exists" and "object-oriented programming doesn't exist" is another game.

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Panicz Maciej Godek‏ @PaniczGodek 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @PaniczGodek @dibblego and

(And the purpose of this game is probably to make some OOP folks upset) But saying, about a (purported) abstract concept, that "it exists" or "it doesn't exist", is very confusing to the people who play the "meaning" game. More precise is to say about concept being well-defined

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Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @PaniczGodek @Krever01 and

"probably to make folks upset" -- baseless charges of sinister motivations are really gross, and irrelevant. OOP is the (equally) least possible defined anti-concept. I don't give a toss who is upset over this matter of fact.

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Panicz Maciej Godek‏ @PaniczGodek 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @dibblego @Krever01

"baseless charges of sinister motivations" I didn't mean it to sound like this. Sorry about that. What I meant to say is that, when people use some phrase to communicate successfully, and someone comes and says that this phrase doesn't make any sense, this isn't very helpful.

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Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Apr 2018

Replying to @PaniczGodek @Krever01

…but they didn't communicate successfully. Nothing at all was said. No inferences were made, or can be made. No utility of the anti-concept can be exploited. You may as well have talked gibberish. The boiling point of the number 12, the perimeter of the colour purple. Nothing.

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