i think @GabrielG439 said this in a talk once and i've found it a useful thing to remember sometimes:
> Cabal was built for managing packages (a single package) whereas Stack was built more for managing *projects*, that is, a collection of packages
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Replying to @dibblego @GabrielG439
Stack is the only way I could get them building so I'd have to say yes.
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Replying to @argumatronic @GabrielG439
I am constantly helping people, especially beginners, who trip over stack, but "not using stack." Cabal at least works. Try nix.
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Replying to @dibblego @GabrielG439
I know you beat this particular horse to death but stack has always worked for me when I need it, and I do use Nix.
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Replying to @argumatronic @GabrielG439
Well, the horse is beating itself to death. I don't go out of my way to care about stack, yet there it is, breaking constantly for beginners. You'll see, there'll be one at the next FP course, there always is, "It's not working, why? By the way, I used stack."
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Replying to @dibblego @argumatronic
The root problem here is that neither Stack nor Cabal had a formal requirements gathering phase like Nix did in Eelco's thesis. As a result, nobody can say for certain whether Stack/Cabal "work" if there is no specification for what it means for them to "work"
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Replying to @GabrielG439 @argumatronic
I would really like there to be zero, or even just small, practical penalty on me, and students, for the existence of stack. Consistent failure to acknowledge the cause of this ongoing penalty, is quite frustrating. it is *so* predictably consistent. Hence, fuck stack.
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I’ve been able to help folks with pretty Much any not a bug cabal issue for like forever. Modern cabal makes it a dream :)
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Yeah, but what if a keen beginner has fallen into the trap of using stack? Now they are stuck, because stack. How do you break the news?
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What if a keen beginner falls into the trap of using cabal, and is stuck? I hope your answer doesn't start with "tell the beginner to install this entirely new package manager configured by a poorly supported/documented and obscure, lazy, dynamically-typed programming language"
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