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    1. Elodie‏ @NathanLander 13 Mar 2018

      Elodie Retweeted Tony Morris

      What kind of problems do you have with stack? I have never once had a problem with stack that wasn't solved by running stack upgrade. Stack is how I got started as a beginner; before that the only code I managed to run used the prelude. I am legitimately puzzled.https://twitter.com/dibblego/status/973710741860630528 …

      Elodie added,

      Tony Morris @dibblego
      Replying to @argumatronic @GabrielG439
      I am constantly helping people, especially beginners, who trip over stack, but "not using stack." Cabal at least works. Try nix.
      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @NathanLander

      In short, stack over-specialises for the unlikely case, for a claimed benefit that doesn't actually exist. I am sympathetic toward beginners trying to get started, but stack is definitely not helping, even though those same beginners will claim otherwise. Progress is stunted.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Elodie‏ @NathanLander 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      I don't really understand how the stack use-case is that specialized. As I understand it, the assumption stack makes is that most developers don't need to worry too much about which version of some library they are using. That seems like most beginners and production teams.

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    4. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @NathanLander

      "Most developers don't need to worry" about such and such. I have never worried about this thing, not for at least a decade before stack existed and not subsequently either.

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    5. Elodie‏ @NathanLander 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      What tools do you use to avoid specifying every version number of your dependencies?

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    6. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @NathanLander

      nix

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Elodie‏ @NathanLander 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      Nix has been on my radar for years but it seems like a big endeavor to learn, and I still haven't had a chance to use it at work. I also consistently hear complaints about the user experience from people who use it.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2018
      Replying to @NathanLander

      There are complaints about nix. Stack (et al) is worst of all worlds. Nobody is aiming for perfection, just practical application within existing limitations. The busted discussion around stack perpetuates these limitations. I cannot possibly bust it any more, even though I try

      10:45 PM - 13 Mar 2018
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