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    1. Dale Wijnand‏ @dwijnand 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Blaisorblade @jdegoes @tomas_mikula

      Right. My take: "The library defines and exposes a small, simple, orthogonal core, that it uses to define the library functions."

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Tomas Mikula‏ @tomas_mikula 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @dwijnand @Blaisorblade @jdegoes

      This again refers to implementation. Could we spot a good/bad API without looking at its implementation?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Dale Wijnand‏ @dwijnand 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @tomas_mikula @Blaisorblade @jdegoes

      John's criteria isn't about just library API, it's about the library as a whole.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Tomas Mikula‏ @tomas_mikula 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @dwijnand @Blaisorblade @jdegoes

      Then could we tell a good library without looking at its implementation?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. functional.cafe/@alois‏ @aloiscochard 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @tomas_mikula @dwijnand and

      Definitely no, I know tons of great libraries without any documentation... Just look at what Kmett is producing.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Tomas Mikula‏ @tomas_mikula 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @aloiscochard @dwijnand and

      Don't limit yourself to judging just by documentation. You can make a judgment based on the API and observable behavior.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. functional.cafe/@alois‏ @aloiscochard 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @tomas_mikula @dwijnand and

      Had an interesting discussion with @dibblego lately about writing a tool to automate this by analyzing sources.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Tomas Mikula‏ @tomas_mikula 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @aloiscochard @dwijnand and

      I accept John's points 1. and 3. as self-evident. From a user's perspective, why should I care about 2.? Probably because it manifests as something I care about. What is that something and what's the causal link from orthogonality to that something.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @tomas_mikula @aloiscochard and

      What if a function says, "this is a really nice and friendly function!" and then you look at the type and it looks hunky dory? Then bam, it goes into production and calls List#head Now you have a clusterfuck on your hands.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Tomas Mikula‏ @tomas_mikula 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @dibblego @aloiscochard and

      This is covered by John's point 1.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Nov 2017
      Replying to @tomas_mikula @aloiscochard and

      I agree, but how do you measure it? Can it be called with null? Are you sure?

      3:16 AM - 22 Nov 2017
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        2. Tomas Mikula‏ @tomas_mikula 22 Nov 2017
          Replying to @dibblego @aloiscochard and

          That's a separate concern.

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Nov 2017
          Replying to @tomas_mikula @aloiscochard and

          Yes, but it's the pressing concern!

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