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    1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017

      Free monad using classy prisms. https://gist.github.com/tonymorris/935e19c091c04f33cdc5b2daf05cfdd9 … /cc @tpolecat

      2 replies 6 retweets 30 likes
    2. etorreborre‏ @etorreborre 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @dibblego @tpolecat

      nice way to do extensible effects except the boiler plate at the end maybe (w. ReadWritePrint)

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @etorreborre @tpolecat

      except it's not boilerplate, in the same way all your programs are not boilerplate. They are *different* programs.

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    4. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @dibblego @etorreborre @tpolecat

      This is great. The only problem (as with Eff) is composing certain effects lawfully (print and read have no laws).

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    5. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @shajra @etorreborre @tpolecat

      What would that mean though? What laws could otherwise come about to give a benefit? The classy prism is as lawful as it gets.

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    6. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @dibblego @etorreborre @tpolecat

      If your algebra had throwError and catchError (as MonadError), then that has laws, which can't mix symmetrically with MonadCont.

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    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @shajra @etorreborre @tpolecat

      Why do I even want these things?

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    8. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @dibblego @etorreborre @tpolecat

      I find MonadError's effects just part of life; the world of MonadCont's utility is still a world I need to explore more (@kmett?).

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @shajra @etorreborre and

      I don't think it applies to this case. It seems unnecessary.

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    10. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @dibblego @etorreborre and

      If your effects indeed compose the way you want, then by all means Eff or Free away.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017
      Replying to @shajra @etorreborre and

      I use MonadError (misnamed MonadEither) in the error case. This just isn't that case.

      3:43 AM - 28 Apr 2017
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        1. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra 28 Apr 2017
          Replying to @dibblego @etorreborre and

          Actually, I agree with this. But I don't know how many other gotchas there are beyond Cont/Error.

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        2. Sukant Hajra‏ @shajra 28 Apr 2017
          Replying to @shajra @dibblego and

          I like how @kmett caught me off guard when I asked him what he thought about "extensible effects," and he replied "they don't exist."

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        1. Ricardo A. Medina‏ @ricmedr 28 Apr 2017
          Replying to @dibblego

          "misnamed MonadEither" I thought the name was to generalize branching

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Apr 2017
          Replying to @ricmedr

          If MonadEither came to exist, it would be the same structure as MonadError.

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