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    1. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014

      @purefn can I get your thoughts on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/scalaz/IWuHC0nlVws/syRUkXJklWIJ … ? I'm considering reviving the Monad instance for monoidal Validation.

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    2. Richard Wallace‏ @purefn 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @bitemyapp

      @bitemyapp It probably wouldn't be accepted. The argument is sound. That doesn't seem to be a commonly held law Applicative and Monad, ...

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    3. Richard Wallace‏ @purefn 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @purefn

      @bitemyapp but it would be damn odd for it to not be the case. Validation not having a Monad instance hasn't been a problem in practice.

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    4. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @purefn

      .@purefn To touch on: >Validation not having a Monad instance hasn't been a problem in practice. That's a problem.

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    5. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @bitemyapp

      .@purefn in Haskell we ended up using Isos to bounce between monoidal Validation and Either-esque data types.

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    6. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @bitemyapp

      .@purefn usually either for the Monad or compatibility with other APIs. Kinda silly.

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    7. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @bitemyapp

      .@purefn this whole issue is an instance of getting equations between weaker and stronger constructions backwards.

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    8. Richard Wallace‏ @purefn 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @bitemyapp

      @bitemyapp hmm interesting. I see what you mean. I'm curious what @dibblego thinks.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @purefn

      @purefn @bitemyapp http://hackage.haskell.org/package/validation …

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    10. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @dibblego

      .@dibblego @purefn yeh. My point is to re-add Monad for AccValidation (monoidal Validation)

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Sep 2014
      Replying to @bitemyapp

      @bitemyapp @purefn It cannot be done such that ap=(<*>)

      4:35 PM - 22 Sep 2014
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        1. Chris Allen (Easter!)‏ @bitemyapp 22 Sep 2014
          Replying to @dibblego

          .@dibblego @purefn when AMP rolls in, it won't be 'liftM2 id' anymore. Also, that equality is not a monad law anyway.

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Sep 2014
          Replying to @bitemyapp

          @bitemyapp @purefn It is a reasonable expectation. I also don't see the penalty otherwise.

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