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    1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @wbillingsley reasoning about programs.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego Yes. So not “that fn uses == so is immoral” but “f+l reasoning claim is not 'morally correct' for Scala because Scala has Any” ?

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    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @wbillingsley Scala has nothing to do with it. The equals functions violates parametricity and porticoes the escape hatch for lies.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego paper is whether “fast and loose" reasoning can make a false assumption about language (total/partial) yet be “morally correct”

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    5. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @dibblego so I think you’re creating a new meaning of “moral” — defining a “moral fn” as one where f+l reasoning should be true?

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    6. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @dibblego if so, that could be a very useful definition. Just trying to understand the aim of the thread a little better.

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    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @wbillingsley I am using exactly the same meaning as "moral" as fast and loose reasoning.

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    8. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego I think you miss an ambiguity in your original tweet. Not clear you were asking for a fn as if in a total language.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @wbillingsley It's abundantly clear by explicitly asking for moral reasoning (no magic).

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    10. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego Indeed the point of my reply was that the f+l assumption is not “morally correct” if your argument is such a Scala f doesn’t exist

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
      Replying to @wbillingsley

      @wbillingsley No it isn't. Scala does not make a difference to this fact.

      6:01 AM - 13 Mar 2014
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        2. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego Yes it does. “If a fn I encounter has this type, it must use length” is wrong for Scala.

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
          Replying to @wbillingsley

          @wbillingsley It is absolutely correct for scala and every other non total system.

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        2. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego You miss the point. Joe encounters a fn with a given type. Joe did not write the fn. Joe wishes to reason about what it does.

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
          Replying to @wbillingsley

          @wbillingsley I am quite certain it is not I who is missing the point.

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        2. Will Billingsley‏ @wbillingsley 13 Mar 2014
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego If that fn is a Scala fn, then Joe’s fast+loose reasoning that “if it has this type it must do this” might not hold.

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Mar 2014
          Replying to @wbillingsley

          @wbillingsley I think you have missed the meaning of fast and loose reasoning. Scalds plays absolutely no role in this matter.

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